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VinnyPaz
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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Okay, so I am fully aware that cameras in hogwons have become a regularity. However, to the best of my knowledge these cameras only record video.
My Academy has very recently installed cameras that record audio as well. . . and they are EVERYWHERE including two (with microphones) in the teachers staff room. And of course, in all the classrooms, down all the halls, in the front lobby and outside the bathrooms. All of them record video and audio. They assure us it is not to watch us, but to watch the kids, but then why are they installed in the teacher's room? And why do they record audio? This seems only semi-justifiable in the actual classrooms.
Please, spare me your cultural-conformance rhetoric. I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal? Of course recording video is, but I'm not so sure about audio.
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
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ceesgetdegrees
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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VinnyPaz wrote: |
I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal?
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
If you have lived more than 2 years here you would know that question is redundant. |
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diablo3
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Go to Yongsan and buy a jammer or something.
They should use them only as a way to improve teaching. If it is not used for that purpose, then it is spying. |
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boyne11

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Spray paint works wonders. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Start having conversations with your coteachers about a plot to kill the owners and run of with their money to China. Then after what ever happens happens post here. |
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vox

Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Location: Jeollabukdo
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
VinnyPaz wrote: |
I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal?
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
If you have lived more than 2 years here you would know that question is redundant. |
I've always wanted to try that spy trick where you take a polaroid of the room and then attach it on a stick onto the front of the camera (the stick's taped under the camerabox.) That has always seemed so 죽있는데!! Was that on Ocean's 12? Can't remember. But I wonder if it would really work.
Then break out the soeju, ghettoblaster and naked staffroom Twister. |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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VinnyPaz wrote: |
Okay, so I am fully aware that cameras in hogwons have become a regularity. However, to the best of my knowledge these cameras only record video.
My Academy has very recently installed cameras that record audio as well. . . and they are EVERYWHERE including two (with microphones) in the teachers staff room. And of course, in all the classrooms, down all the halls, in the front lobby and outside the bathrooms. All of them record video and audio. They assure us it is not to watch us, but to watch the kids, but then why are they installed in the teacher's room? And why do they record audio? This seems only semi-justifiable in the actual classrooms.
Please, spare me your cultural-conformance rhetoric. I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal? Of course recording video is, but I'm not so sure about audio.
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
The teacher's room cameras could be to watch the children who go into the teacher's room (at least that is what they might tell you). You might want to check your apartment walls and ceiling for pinholes. |
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boyne11

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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merkurix wrote: |
VinnyPaz wrote: |
Okay, so I am fully aware that cameras in hogwons have become a regularity. However, to the best of my knowledge these cameras only record video.
My Academy has very recently installed cameras that record audio as well. . . and they are EVERYWHERE including two (with microphones) in the teachers staff room. And of course, in all the classrooms, down all the halls, in the front lobby and outside the bathrooms. All of them record video and audio. They assure us it is not to watch us, but to watch the kids, but then why are they installed in the teacher's room? And why do they record audio? This seems only semi-justifiable in the actual classrooms.
Please, spare me your cultural-conformance rhetoric. I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal? Of course recording video is, but I'm not so sure about audio.
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
The teacher's room cameras could be to watch the children who go into the teacher's room (at least that is what they might tell you). You might want to check your apartment walls and ceiling for pinholes. |
Hahahahaha.... lol
call the U.S. Secret Service to have them sweep your room for bugs.  |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Post your school's name here and see how many new applicants they get.
I had an interview this summer at aKNC Hyunjae in Seoul and they were all over the building but not sure if they transmitted them or not. |
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VinnyPaz
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
VinnyPaz wrote: |
I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal?
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
If you have lived more than 2 years here you would know that question is redundant. |
First of all, I checked the archived posts for anything regarding this subject matter but didn't find anything particularly relevent.
Second, How would I know this question is redundant? I said I have lived in Korea for 2 years, I didn't say I've been on this blog for 2 years. In fact, I just recently became a member. I have steered clear of it because most of the shizot on blogs are nonsense posted by pinheads like you. Who instead of offering anything constructive, are ready to belittle anybody with a question or comment and display their "comprehensive" knowledge of everything Korea. If you have nothing to offer than don't respond, you f*ck. Now back to the question at hand. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Second, How would I know this question is redundant? |
I believe and I could be wrong that he means that whether or not it is illegal is irrelevent as the laws are not always followed here and legal/ illegal becomes mightly confused in the mind of the hagwon owner or the enforcer of the law after they find the white envelope on thier desk.
Thus asking if it is illegal is redundant. |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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..and why would having cameras in the classrooms, hallways, and teachers' rooms be an invasion of privacy? Bathroom, sure, your apartment, of course, but classrooms, hallways, and in theory the teachers' room are all public access places, and your behavior in those places can reflect upon the school -- so why not be able to watch you there?
I'm not saying that *I* would like it -- I would like it as little as having the owner sit in on all of my classes and follow me around all day. However, if the owner DID decide to do that, I wouldn't claim he would be invading my privacy -- just making me uncomfortable with the inferences I would make regarding his reasons for watching me so closely. |
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VinnyPaz
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Not so sure I would call the teacher's room "a public access place" there buddy. Anyway, I have no problem with the video cameras, it's the audio recording I think is an invasion of privacy. Seems like spying. It strikes me as strange that you would see it any differently. You must a foreign manager. . . or a complete tool. [/quote] |
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ceesgetdegrees
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Big Brother is watching . . . . everything. |
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VinnyPaz wrote: |
ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
VinnyPaz wrote: |
I have lived in Korea for more than 2 years and have adjusted just fine, but this simply seems disgusting to me. This is, of course, an invasion of privacy and a perversion of their authority, but my question is, is it legal?
Any answers, thoughts or feedback? |
If you have lived more than 2 years here you would know that question is redundant. |
First of all, I checked the archived posts for anything regarding this subject matter but didn't find anything particularly relevent.
Second, How would I know this question is redundant? I said I have lived in Korea for 2 years, I didn't say I've been on this blog for 2 years. In fact, I just recently became a member. I have steered clear of it because most of the shizot on blogs are nonsense posted by pinheads like you. Who instead of offering anything constructive, are ready to belittle anybody with a question or comment and display their "comprehensive" knowledge of everything Korea. If you have nothing to offer than don't respond, you f*ck. Now back to the question at hand. |
Based on that response i'd say a camera with audio tracking you wherever you go is probably a good idea. Now to the question at hand....the law here means absolutley nothing...hence the redundancy in your question. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Funny as hell. God I love Daves sometimes. Guy posts legitimate enquiry/complaint about cameras (specifically audio and in the teachers' room also, if I recall) and yet in all his subsequent replies suggests he's a bad-tempered, ill-mannered ruffian with the IQ of a rock. |
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