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saw an accident.... who knows the Korean rules?

 
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: saw an accident.... who knows the Korean rules? Reply with quote

Just outside my apartment window, a guy on a scooter (no helmet) was struck by a car. I was about to call 119, but the driver of the car got out, and stayed with the scooter driver (who was unconscious) and got out his phone to call 119 himself. After hearing stories about so many hit and runs in this country, I was happily surprised to see this guy stay. Knowing that help was on the way, and the man was kneeling beside the guy trying to help (and since I'm home sick today and had nothing better to do), I watched the series of events as they unfolded.

The guy was unconscious for about 4 minutes I'd say. That's not a short amount of time. When he started to come around, he clearly wasn't all there, but he was speaking. He was having trouble focusing his attention, and realizing what happened. An ambulance arrived, and the paramedics did a full body check, which was good. They then started to get him onto the gerney (gurney? sp?), and into the ambulance. This is when the guy freaked out and refused to get in. He tried to get himself up, and stumbled away, with the car driver following him and trying to make sure he didn't fall. He was unsuccessful, and they guy ended up sitting in the road again.

Now in Canada, the guy wouldn't have had a choice if he was obviously not thinking clearly and couldn't walk properly. The police/paramedics would have made him to go the hospital. But here, the police took statements, spray painted an outline of the angle of the scooter on the road, and then they all left.

The scooter guy, still shakey and not walking properly, tried to then start his scooter to drive away. The car driver was still there trying to convince him not to drive. Luckily, his scooter didn't start (not in good condition after being hit), so the driver of the car convinced him to get in the passenger seat to drive him, I can only hope, to a hospital.

Now I realize if you've been unconscious for some time, obviously there is some kind of head injury, or shock. It got me thinking though, are there any rules for ambulance drivers/police here regarding this kind of situation. Can they all just leave like that, and not get in trouble later?

Once in University, after pulling an all nighter studying, I fainted in a local subway restaurant. A stupid woman there made me stand up as soon as I was conscious, so of course, I fainted again. By then my friend ran over, and kept me sitting down on the ground, despite this stupid woman trying to get me to stand up a third time. Subway staff called 911 (ambulance), but since we were literally a 3 minute drive from the ER, my friend said she would drive my car there rather than take the ambulance.

The paramedics weren't convinced, so I had to sign a release form, releasing them from any responsibility for what may happen afterwards, and ensuring that I would seek medical attention on my own. No forms signed here in Korea from what I can see.

Anybody know?
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's effed up.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
that's effed up.
, G.
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha yeah it is pretty effed up.

So, I take it nobody knows then?
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but can i tell a story?

I was on a city bus. The driver stopped to let someone out. She stepped down to the street and was promptly smashed into by a delivery scooter.
She went flying after a very unpleasant *thud*, and the scooter toppled and skidded.

The bus driver got up, calmly, and went to see if she was ok.
She sat up and rubbed her scraped legs. The bus driver handed her an insurance card (I presume) and drove away.

Then at the next red light, when another bus pulled alongside, the two drivers had a good laugh over the incident.
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I ask where this story happened? No lie... that happened to my co-teacher Shocked

She was out of work for 2 weeks, and had to receive extensive physical therapy on one knee. She stepped off the bus, and was struck by a delivery scooter. Nobody really helped her.

Which means in all likelihood, since bus drivers USUALLY let you off on the far right hand side of the road, the scooter was passing on the right, which I believe is illegal.

Do you mind my asking where you were when this happened?
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daegu. It was a while ago.
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, that doesn't quite fit. Thanks though.
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thekingofdisco



Joined: 29 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulShakin wrote:

the scooter was passing on the right, which I believe is illegal.



you would think it is.... but I am pretty sure it is the correct way (in korea) to overtake with a bike in many situations..... crazy isn't it!

Shocked

I seem to remember reading about that in the test book. Plus i know someone who got bumped over by a car, as they were riding on the right, i.e. undertaking with too little space to move, and it was deemed by the police 100% the car driver's fault. which was good for my friend, but pretty strange in my view.

Cars do so many u-turns here... legal and illegal. This maybe the reason for the weird law.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he obviously needed a check up to be sure.

Very likely he would have concussion.

Can be dangerous.

i knew someone take a knock on the head playing rugby. He got up after a minute and seemed fine. 10 mins later he had to stop playing, as he wasn't 100%.
20 mins later he kept repeating himself, as if he'd forgotten that he'd already said that.
That evening he slipped into a coma.
Doctors fought to correct a blod clot on his brain.
3 months later, he reappeared ok...but it was touch and go and he had been extremely lucky.
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I sincerely hope that when he got into the car with the driver that hit him, it was to go to a hospital.

One can only hope.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On page 47 of the For Foreigners in the Republic of Korea Driver Manual, I find this:

Quote:
(5) Anyone at the scene of traffic accident should be cooperative in administering first aid to the injured and in moving vehicles away from the accident location.

(6) When you witness a hit-and-run accident, helpt the victim and call the police by dialing 112 to report the license plate number, vehicle type, coler and other features of the suspect vehicle.


That seems to be the sum of your responsibilities if you are not personally involved in the accident. I would hope that it goes without saying that should a police officer query you as to what you saw, you would inform the officer.

As to the dude with the head injury, on the same page of the Driver Manual, I find:
Quote:
(2) In case of personal injury, the injured person should receive a medical check-up by the doctor, however slight the injury [...].
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