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an example how t.v. shows are so dumbed down
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shapeshifter



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock wrote:
Ummm...I believe I just watched the episode you're referring to. It seems you didn't watch the entire episode to see the context, but rather watched an isolated scene and flew off the handle about how much more intelligent you are than the doctors who are paid to advise and check the scripts for the show...

The episode was about an adult musical savant who was in an accident when he was 6 and suffered severe brain trauma. In VERY simple terms, to compensate for the damage, his brain had essentially rewired itself in ways so that it functioned in ways the normal brain does not...thus an uncanny and unexplainable musical gift in an adult who is a functional 4 year old. This was discussed AT LENGTH in the episode. But I guess you were too busy praising yourself to hear it. (Season 3, episode 15, by the way)

House IS a very intelligent show. In fact, I would venture to say that prime time television has become MORE, not less intelligent over the last 5 years or so with the introduction of shows like CSI, Law and Order, and House. Is it still fiction? Yes. Is it intelligent? Yes.




I can't help wondering if VanIslander realises how badly he can come acress in his posts. Robert Burns wrote some useful words about the value of being able to see ourselves as others see us.

If VI were able to do that, he'd know that the tone of his posts tends to make him appear smug, condescending and generally quite tiresome.

His constant references to his own bookishness and his unceasing efforts to portay himself as a 'thinking man' suggest that underneath all that bluster, he's probably quite insecure about what's he has done/is doing with his life.

It seems to me that if someone's genuinely as bright and interesting as VI appears to want to believe he is, it'll come across natually in their writing, thereby eliminating the need for any and all self-congratulatory masturbation.

Or maybe I'm just grumpy because I'm hungry and it's not time for lunch yet.

Cheers
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't agree with you about House. I doubt its realistic, but I do find it is intelligent. If not medically, then methodically. Simply put, it is well put together and I like it.

But I do agree with your intent. I hate CSI. Ever since I saw it for the first time. Its just so overthetop, cheesy, unbelievable, and poorly acted. There are few redeeming qualities. Yet everyone thinks its the best crime show in history. My favourite crime show is Numb3rs, I doubt anyone has heard of that.

...and there are good TV shows if you look hard enough. Battlestar Galactica, The Office (US & UK), Mythbusters, The Daily Show/Colbert Report... to name a few.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shapeshifter wrote:
I can't help wondering if VanIslander realises how badly he can come acress in his posts. Robert Burns wrote some useful words about the value of being able to see ourselves as others see us.

If VI were able to do that, he'd know that the tone of his posts tends to make him appear smug, condescending and generally quite tiresome.

His constant references to his own bookishness and his unceasing efforts to portay himself as a 'thinking man' suggest that underneath all that bluster, he's probably quite insecure about what's he has done/is doing with his life.

It seems to me that if someone's genuinely as bright and interesting as VI appears to want to believe he is, it'll come across natually in their writing, thereby eliminating the need for any and all self-congratulatory *beep*.

an observation: the doctors had him cover his left eye and judged whether the right half of his brain was working based solely on what his right eye showed! and what his right hand could do!... he couldn't see or act on his right side so oh my gawd the right half of his brain is dead! that was basically it

an impression: that seemed absurd to someone (me) who is by no means a psychologist or particularly knowledgeable in medicine

a judgement: this is just another example of why i stopped watching t.v. in the first place: "that's dumb!", as a good movie is much better at getting one to suspend disbelief... i don't "get" t.v. and know others who don't either (thought they'd be the ones interested in responding to this thread, not you)

i wrote what i wrote with no concern as to how i come across to strangers on the Internet, other than basic civility and manners (do you know how you come across? ... don't worry about it, i won't either)

anyways... make of it what you will
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
shapeshifter wrote:
I can't help wondering if VanIslander realises how badly he can come acress in his posts. Robert Burns wrote some useful words about the value of being able to see ourselves as others see us.

If VI were able to do that, he'd know that the tone of his posts tends to make him appear smug, condescending and generally quite tiresome.

His constant references to his own bookishness and his unceasing efforts to portay himself as a 'thinking man' suggest that underneath all that bluster, he's probably quite insecure about what's he has done/is doing with his life.

It seems to me that if someone's genuinely as bright and interesting as VI appears to want to believe he is, it'll come across natually in their writing, thereby eliminating the need for any and all self-congratulatory *beep*.

an observation: the doctors had him cover his left eye and judged whether the right half of his brain was working based solely on what his right eye showed! and what his right hand could do!... he couldn't see or act on his right side so oh my gawd the right half of his brain is dead! that was basically it

an impression: that seemed absurd to someone (me) who is by no means a psychologist or particularly knowledgeable in medicine

a judgement: this is just another example of why i stopped watching t.v. in the first place: "that's dumb!", as a good movie is much better at getting one to suspend disbelief... i don't "get" t.v. and know others who don't either (thought they'd be the ones interested in responding to this thread, not you)

i wrote what i wrote with no concern as to how i come across to strangers on the Internet, other than basic civility and manners (do you know how you come across? ... don't worry about it, i won't either)

anyways... make of it what you will


You are coming off as extremely arrogant. You may not like them, and may not get them, but that means nothing but your personal preferences. I can't for the life of me what people see in the WWE, but then again I like reading fantasy novels, which some people don't understand. People aren't watching House to become a doctor Van Islander.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My father with a Phd and mother who has been a registered nurse for over 30 years and now supervises a large medical staff watch House religiously. As with most tv shows, it is purely entertainment that is meant to be taken with a grain of salt. Most of the medical conditions on the show are complete fabrications that would never occur in real life.

I shun tv, so I never watch anything aside from the occasional Simpsons episode or the news. The internet on the other hand.....
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VirginIslander



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Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't help wondering if VanIslander realises how badly he can come acress in his posts. Robert Burns wrote some useful words about the value of being able to see ourselves as others see us.

If VI were able to do that, he'd know that the tone of his posts tends to make him appear smug, condescending and generally quite tiresome.

His constant references to his own bookishness and his unceasing efforts to portay himself as a 'thinking man' suggest that underneath all that bluster, he's probably quite insecure about what's he has done/is doing with his life.

It seems to me that if someone's genuinely as bright and interesting as VI appears to want to believe he is, it'll come across natually in their writing, thereby eliminating the need for any and all self-congratulatory *beep*.

Or maybe I'm just grumpy because I'm hungry and it's not time for lunch yet.

Cheers

You talkin bout me? Laughing
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Pak Yu Man



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's VIs way or the highway.

People like what people like. Some people like reality TV. I think that crap is garbage. A lot of those shows that I think are crap are in the top 10 in the US. So wtf do I know?
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
My father with a Phd and mother who has been a registered nurse for over 30 years and now supervises a large medical staff watch House religiously. As with most tv shows, it is purely entertainment that is meant to be taken with a grain of salt. Most of the medical conditions on the show are complete fabrications that would never occur in real life.

I shun tv, so I never watch anything aside from the occasional Simpsons episode or the news. The internet on the other hand.....


What? Nooo. I thought all hospitals were like the one in Scrubs where the doctors were always funny, witty, caring and like to sing a lot. Thanks for shattering that illusion. No more self-harm for me then.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
My father with a Phd and mother who has been a registered nurse for over 30 years and now supervises a large medical staff watch House religiously. As with most tv shows, it is purely entertainment that is meant to be taken with a grain of salt. Most of the medical conditions on the show are complete fabrications that would never occur in real life.


I thought they were based on wacky real life case studies.

I love House, but I find the actors on Grey's Anatomy make much more convincing doctors than anyone on House's team.
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