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Johnwayne
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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| Miles Rationis wrote: |
Neglecting incline will not negatively affect pec development. At best it adds variation to the workout but there is no evidence that you will realise some potential you haven't already done with flat incline... |
Well, I could probably dig up at least a half dozen articles that say otherwise, but those articles are just based on peoples "feelings" and "myths", right? |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Heh, everyone's arguing in the weight lifting thread.
ROID RAGE! |
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The_Conservative
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You can't train upper chest because there is no such thing. The pec is ONE muscle. Look at an anatomy chart. Leaving aside comments from genetically gifted drug users (the pro bodybuilders) it is physically impossible to contract only part of one muscle against load.
But some will say then why do I feel it more in my "upper chest" when I do incline? Because of the angle of the bench. Yes you may be able to EMPHASISE one part more than another...but that extra emphasis is not likely to make enough of a difference, particularly if you are using LESS weight than in the flat.
And the incline bench was not designed to work "upper chest" or anything like that in the first place. It was originally used to increase the overhead press. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Johnwayne wrote: |
| Miles Rationis wrote: |
Neglecting incline will not negatively affect pec development. At best it adds variation to the workout but there is no evidence that you will realise some potential you haven't already done with flat incline... |
Well, I could probably dig up at least a half dozen articles that say otherwise, but those articles are just based on peoples "feelings" and "myths", right? |
Basically yes. If you have studies on the other hand post those and let's have a look-see. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
You can't train upper chest because there is no such thing. The pec is ONE muscle. Look at an anatomy chart. Leaving aside comments from genetically gifted drug users (the pro bodybuilders) it is physically impossible to contract only part of one muscle against load.
But some will say then why do I feel it more in my "upper chest" when I do incline? Because of the angle of the bench. Yes you may be able to EMPHASISE one part more than another...but that extra emphasis is not likely to make enough of a difference, particularly if you are using LESS weight than in the flat.
And the incline bench was not designed to work "upper chest" or anything like that in the first place. It was originally used to increase the overhead press. |
I've had this discussion before with other posters here.
-Do me a favor and raise your arm about 45 degrees in front of you right now.
-flex your chest (it might help if you have your hand pronated)
-feel your "upper chest"
-now feel your "lower chest" (of the pec flexed)
I feel a massive difference. I can flexmy upper chest while barely feeling any change in my lower.
How about you? |
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Miles Rationis
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
You can't train upper chest because there is no such thing. The pec is ONE muscle. Look at an anatomy chart. Leaving aside comments from genetically gifted drug users (the pro bodybuilders) it is physically impossible to contract only part of one muscle against load.
But some will say then why do I feel it more in my "upper chest" when I do incline? Because of the angle of the bench. Yes you may be able to EMPHASISE one part more than another...but that extra emphasis is not likely to make enough of a difference, particularly if you are using LESS weight than in the flat.
And the incline bench was not designed to work "upper chest" or anything like that in the first place. It was originally used to increase the overhead press. |
Exactly my point; thanks for adding...  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| Miles Rationis wrote: |
| Neglecting incline will not negatively affect pec development. At best it adds variation to the workout but there is no evidence that you will realise some potential you haven't already done with flat incline... |
My evidence comes from personal experience. I only had a flat bench at home for the first few years of training. After moving on up to a gym (and using incline benches), I noticed a world of difference.
I've never had the best genetics... so keep that in mind when looking at this pic. The guy on the left is me (who went on to move to Korea and lose 40lbs), the guy on the right won his pro-card two years ago (and gained 40lbs from this picture).
As far as I'm concerned, this pic shows pretty decent overall chest development - and I didn't have that until I hit the inclines.
But if your chest looks great with only doing flats, then all the power to ya. Maybe post up some pics then and we can all see what the flat bech will do for us. |
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