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[ChimpumCallao]

At last, science discovers why blue is for boys but girls really do prefer pink

[safeblad]

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733

According to the website "Gender Specific Colors," it would seem that
assigning color to gender is mostly a 20th century trait. It would
also seem that at one time, the color associations were reversed when
color first came into use as a gender identifier.

In fact, this reversal of what we consider "normal" was considered
conventional, even in the early 20th century.

"At one point pink was considered more of a boy's color, (as a
watered-down red, which is a fierce color) and blue was more for
girls. The associate of pink with bold, dramatic red clearly affected
its use for boys. An American newspaper in 1914 advised mothers, "If
you like the color note on the little one's garments, use pink for the
boy and blue for the girl, if you are a follower of convention." [The
Sunday Sentinal, March 29, 1914.]

"There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the
generally accepted rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The
reason is that pink being a more decided and stronger color is more
suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty,
is prettier for the girl." [Ladies Home Journal, June, 1918]
http://histclo.hispeed.com/gender/color.html - "Gender Specific
Colors"

According to Jo B. Paoletti and Carol Kregloh, "The Children's
Department," in Claudia Brush Kidwell and Valerie Steele, ed., Men and
Women: Dressing the Part, (Smithsonian Institution Press, 1989). -
In the United States: "The current pink for girls and blue for boys
wasn't uniform until the 1950's.

It would also seem that Nazi Germany had something to do with the
association of pink with femininity:

"Catholic traditions in Germany and neighboring countries reverse the
current color coding, because of the strong association of blue with
the Virgin Mary...the NAZIs in their concentration camps use a pink
triangle to identify homosexuals. (The yellow star of David is the
best known symbol, used of course to identify Jews. The German system
was quite complicated, using various symbols an colors to identify
criminals, political prisinors, an a whole range of other groups). The
NAZI's choice of pink suggests that it by the 1930s was a color that
in Germany had become associate with girls." - "Gender Specific
Colors"

Here is another site backing the same color history.

"The preferred color to dress young boys in was pink! Blue was
reserved for girls as it was considered the paler, more dainty of the
two colors, and pink was thought to be the stronger (akin to red). It
was not until WWII that the colors were reversed and pink was used for
girls and blue for boys..." - Quote from Dress Maker Magazine
http://www.dressmaker.com/ezine0200.shtml

"Jo B. Paoletti concludes that the effect of color-coded gender
differences (pink for girls, blue for boys) existed oppositely
initially..." - Quote from book review "The Material Culture of
Gender, the Gender of Material Culture" - Winterthur, Del.: Henry
Francis du Pont Winterthur Museum, 1997 - From the Journal of American
History - Please note that this is a cached page as the current page
is different:
http://tinyurl.com/iy31

While there are also myths and legends supporting both or either color
for gender identification, those resources dealing with straight
history date the identification of pink with femininity to the period
of World War II or later.

[ChimpumCallao]

well. there you go then. very interesting!

[just4u]

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[bejarano-korea]

Pink might be princesses favourite colour but the big black cloud that hovers around in her skull is more prevelant to her life.

[Big_Bird]

I'll have to show that to my husband, Safeblad. I have a few pretty pink garments which I occasionally dress my baby boy in (figuring that at 6 months he won't give a toss) but my husband always acts aghast when he catches me. Like it's going to turn him into a big girl's blouse or something.

[bejarano-korea]

[spliff]

What's "princess"?

[mateomiguel]

The article quoted in the first post is an excellent example of a 20th and 21st century phenomenon that I affectionately like to call Scientific Religion. This has nothing to do with the validity of evolutionary theory or creationism, its just about pseudoscientific mumbo-jumbo.

Some people think evolution is a valid scientific theory. Then there are other people who believe that evolution holds the answers that we need in today's confusing world, and have the uttermost faith that the million year process is our guide to morality today. see the difference? The first kind of people are rational minds, while the second are crazed cultists no different from any other religious nutjobs.

The article up there is an example of the evolution religious nutjobs. They are doing nothing more than spinning myths, morality plays set in a pristine Eden back in the day when all men everywhere were burly, fur-clad hunters, and all women everywhere were submissive, doe-skin-clad gatherers. The men brought back the tiger meat, the bear meat, the neanderthal meat, while the women brought back berries. Lots of berries. Because they brought back so many berries they actually developed a genetic predisposition to the color pink.

Nevermind that berries are often red, green, blue, purple, or even black.

Nevermind that there is no natural law preventing men from picking up handfuls of berries on a regular basis.

Nevermind that hunter-gather cultures would also gather fruit, nuts, vegetables, leaves, bark, fish, and insects none of which are often pink.

Nevermind that there is no evidence to support the idea of female-only gatherers or male-only hunters.

Nevermind that the most common place to find the color pink in nature is in freshly killed and cut open MEAT.

Articles like these just make me so angry because while they use the terms of science, they use them like they're invoking religious ideology to enforce a morality upon people. I hate religious people doing that, why do seemingly atheist people have do it too!

[karma police]

princess, i've adored you since i've discovered this most useful and helpful site. it was september 1st when i first set eyes on your most sexy yet classy post(s).

please, will you accept this avatar as a gift from me and an example of a small token of gifts and big priceless treasures to come that i will shower upon you if we do, indeed, ever meet in the real world, girl? (i made it myself! )



i dig you, you know?
no, really!
i do...

[bejarano-korea]

[karma police]

thank you, kind poster... if anything, i'm a hyper-artist...

i'm relatively new in Korea and on here so please, do tell, is princess for real or just a cruel joke on lonely hearts?

[bejarano-korea]

[karma police]

Changwon? where's that, buddy? anywhere near Seoul? is it a bar? nightclub? can i go if it's in the Seoul area?

[bejarano-korea]