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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Which means they ought to be held until the war is over |
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This is a war against an ideology, how long is that going to take? 20 years? 300 years? The idea of being able to pin an date on winning this war, was never in the plan, if there was a plan to start with. Which judging by the mess, there appears not to be. |
Like the war against fascism.
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If they are criminals in the eyes of global law and basic human rights then try them and convict them. You can't? Not even a small trial? Well let them go, they are not guilty of whatever you are trying to pin on them. |
Miltary trials.
There are up to 300,000 who have the goals they do. The system could never handle it.
If they go through the system then the US will have to disclose its sources of informaiton and how it found out what it did.
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Guantanamo is a day care centre compared to what the Jihadists are up to. |
These jihadists don't paint themselves as a democracy who are upholding the rights of the citizens, which include basic human rights. America likes to represent itself as that. Think this is called hypocrisy.
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If these jihadists don't respect others' human rights they should not expect to have THEIRS respected either. They get fed, clothed and housed. That's enough. Don't coddle terrorists. They only see that as weakness which reinforces their will to commit more terrorism. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| If these jihadists don't respect others' human rights they should not expect to have THEIRS respected either. |
Don't think it works like that. The jihadists haven't signed the Geneva COnvention, AMerica has. There are laws.
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| They get fed, clothed and housed. That's enough. |
Torture? How about a fair trial? How about being proved guilty? They're aren't POWs, legally you can't hold them indefinately, hold on a sec, yeh they can, because it's the US.
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| They only see that as weakness which reinforces their will to commit more terrorism. |
Haha I like this, Because it describes to States as well. Don't show the states any weakness or they'll commit more terrorism. It's called CIA covert operations. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Dome Vans"]
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| If these jihadists don't respect others' human rights they should not expect to have THEIRS respected either. |
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| Don't think it works like that. The jihadists haven't signed the Geneva COnvention, AMerica has. There are laws. |
The Geneva convention never considered those like AQ
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| They get fed, clothed and housed. That's enough. |
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| Torture? How about a fair trial? How about being proved guilty? They're aren't POWs, legally you can't hold them indefinately, hold on a sec, yeh they can, because it's the US. |
There are not POWs and they there is a war so they are not just regular criminals .
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| Haha I like this, Because it describes to States as well. Don't show the states any weakness or they'll commit more terrorism. It's called CIA covert operations. |
If the CIA were really as ruthless as you say then then the Jihadists would all be dead.
I mean the CIA was worried that it would get in trouble for flooding Iraq with defective switches that would cause IEDs to blow up in the bomb makers face.
I wish the CIA was half as ruthless as you claim it to be. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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And getting a bit closer to the topic...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070909/pl_afp/usiraqunrestpolitics
Bush, officials pass buck over who ordered Iraq army disbanded by Sig Christenson
Sun Sep 9, 5:47 PM ET
SAN ANTONIO, United States (AFP) - As General David Petraeus prepares to tell Congress that a troop surge has helped tamp down Iraq's civil war, Washington is in buck-passing mode over who made the decision many say is at the root of the instability: disbanding the Iraqi army.
Former secretary of state Colin Powell says no one told him about it, and that then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice was in the dark too.
President George W. Bush says he thought the army would be kept intact after the US-led invasion in March 2003, but concedes to having a fuzzy memory on the matter.
"Yeah, I can't remember," he said in a new book, "Dead Certain," by Robert Draper. "I'm sure I said, 'This is the policy, what happened?"
The former administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer, and his military counterpart at the time, retired army Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, say Bush is evading responsibility for one of the war's biggest blunders. |
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