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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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When I saw the thread title I thought it was the name of a rock band  |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I keep busy doing loads of cool stuff. |
you "keep busy"? you mean its a conscious effort to find things to fill your time?
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| Some of it is work/professional development related |
Endless predictable gimchi dinners with people you've just spent hours working alongside? groan
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| some of it is hanging with colleagues/former colleagues |
Read " meeting the same old barflies at the same old foreigner bar"
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| and some of it is spent with random korean friends. |
Giving out free english lessons in exchange for company..
Not to criticise but my point is...in other Asian countries foreigners get accepted into the society a lot more easy. Thus your time is filled with going out and enjoying your time socially that you never even think of spending hours analysing life on a chat website. By contrast Korea is quite isolating.
Lets see. I've been to Phillipines, China, Japan, and Taiwan in the past year. In all those places, people were open and chatty from the start, genuinely curious and inviting me out to hang out from day 1. In korea? Not a hope. Its just..different. More uptight.
if you think its time i left korea for somewhere more easygoing, you'd probably be right... |
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Been There, Taught That
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| If korea had more things to do for foreigners, and foreigners were more easily involved into society here, you would not see this moaning phenomena. |
Classic.
This is, I think, an example of what the gist of this thread is all about: failure to self-activate, leading to too much time spent gazing out upon the forbidding landscape. That, and a love of seeking out the uniquely bad and comparing and contrasting ourselves. It's all pretty iffy...
Talking stops when doing starts, and vice versa. So can I assume there are simply foreigners who need to disconnect from the Way Back Home machine enough to get out and do more stuff--and make themselves acceptable? You may not be native, but you are resident. Why fight it? |
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davehere22
Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: |
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davehere22--
Seems like you're the one doing the moaning. You're an idiot for even bringing this up. Just what the hell is the matter with you, son?
browneyedgirl--
Would it kill you to put a space or two in your moniker?
as-ian--
Just what gives you the right to be so damned optimistic? There is a lot of positive people here? IS??? I hope you learn to speak the language before you attempt to teach it.
idiocy perpetuated. |
Ha ha. Pity I missed all the comments yesterday. Thats what I was lookin for to bake my day a bit less boring.
And I know I was moaning. But not about Korea. Just some of the people here on these boards. |
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davehere22
Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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If korea had more things to do for foreigners, and foreigners were more easily involved into society here, you would not see this moaning phenomena.
rest. |
Well my first impression of Koreans is a good one. I have only experienced kindness from them. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| If you meet a foreigner in Korea who's not registered on this board, they almost always inevitably have the impression that this site is filled with mentally lazy xenophobes suffering from culture shock and homesickness. It's what I thought before I signed up, and it's still a visible element all the time. |
Right on the button. |
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as-ian
Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| If you meet a foreigner in Korea who's not registered on this board, they almost always inevitably have the impression that this site is filled with mentally lazy xenophobes suffering from culture shock and homesickness. It's what I thought before I signed up, and it's still a visible element all the time. |
Exactly. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Oh, ooohhh, please help me! Oh, Korea is being so MEAN to me! People stare at me, and there are these trucks that pass by my apartment that try to sell me onions with a loudspeaker! I can't stand it. Don't you all sympathisze?
On the other hand, I got paid the other day, and the taxes are quite low. Had dinner last night at a very nice restaurant with good friends, and I could afford to pay for it. Um. Never mind, forget I mentioned anything.
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I think these forums give people a chance to express their views and talk about their experiences, good or bad.
I love Korea for many reasons. There are other aspects I'm not so keen on.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=98392
I made a post tonight after a horrible event happened last weekend.
Read the responses and ask yourself wtf is up with the lack of sympathy.
Seriously.
Or call me a crybaby for trying to express my outrage. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
| jinks wrote: |
| I keep busy doing loads of cool stuff. |
you "keep busy"? you mean its a conscious effort to find things to fill your time?
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| Some of it is work/professional development related |
Endless predictable gimchi dinners with people you've just spent hours working alongside? groan
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| some of it is hanging with colleagues/former colleagues |
Read " meeting the same old barflies at the same old foreigner bar"
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| and some of it is spent with random korean friends. |
Giving out free english lessons in exchange for company..
Not to criticise but my point is...in other Asian countries foreigners get accepted into the society a lot more easy. Thus your time is filled with going out and enjoying your time socially that you never even think of spending hours analysing life on a chat website. By contrast Korea is quite isolating.
Lets see. I've been to Phillipines, China, Japan, and Taiwan in the past year. In all those places, people were open and chatty from the start, genuinely curious and inviting me out to hang out from day 1. In korea? Not a hope. Its just..different. More uptight.
if you think its time i left korea for somewhere more easygoing, you'd probably be right... |
I keep busy because there's lots to do and not enough time (even though I only work Tue-Thu)
Professional development is mainly KOTESOL stuff and my distance masters programme, but since you reminded me, yes we do have lots of work dinners, but our faculty likes to take us to flash western buffets at hotels.
My colleagues and former colleagues have a wide range of interests and not many are bar flies, maybe you are projecting your friends' pastimes onto my friends. As for my Korean friends scrounging free English lessons off me - Ha! Ha! maybe that's why you don't have many friends in Korea, ugly cynicism is not attractive. In fact, most of my K friends have great english skills (some are pretty lame, though) and many of them spend time helping me with my (also pretty lame) Korean.
How many Asian countries have you visited in the last year? A lot, eh? Too many for you to have lived in all of them. Visiting a country on vacation is NOTHING like living there. Try living in some Philippine province 24/7 for 8-12 months, and then tell us how it compares to living in Korea.
I will say it again, your boredom is in your head, not in Korea. |
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