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ceesgetdegrees
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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There are 330-pound linemen who run the 40 twice as fast as I do.
I'd be interested to see what a "realer" sport is, and what sport has athletes who are closer to the complete package of size, strength, speed, agility, and stamina. |
That sounds good but my question is, how many times a game are they asked to do that? how much of a break are they given between each time? American football strikes me as being as being a bit of a chess match, it's good for what it is but if you prefer more fluidity and less stoppages and big hits then rugby and rugby league are where it's at. You couldn't weigh 330 pounds and be much use on the rugby or rugby league field as a solic level of cardiovascular fitness is at the core of the game as opposed to some positions in football that require bulk over fitness. |
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unknown9398
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Location: Yeongcheon, S. Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| The question is ludicrous. Of course it's a 'real' sport. The only reason anyone would ask such a ridiculous question is to start a silly argument. |
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: |
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You know, football is so much more than a sport in America. It is a fabric of the culture. It is a true American event. If you didn't play football in high school, the event of the week was Friday's football game. College football has arguably as much passion in it than any sport around the globe. If you scoff at that, try going to an SEC game and your mind will surely change.
But the fact is you don't have to go to an SEC game to experience college football passion. Every Saturday during the fall, colleges around the United States are in a fanatical fervor battling in spirit for their teams. Sundays are a true event. Friends and family get together with food, drinks, laughter, pure emotion and root on their teams. Tailgaiting at a college game or NFL game is another experience that really cannot be compared to anything else. Super Bowl Sunday is a holiday, a straight up holiday.
Football is much more than a sport. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
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| how the hell do you agree with me and call me a retard in the same sentence??? |
I guess he thought you were being sarcastic... |
oh... i suppose i can see where you're coming from with that. but the things that i listed alongside of 'and american football is a real sport' included other indesputable comments such as 'and jessica alba is a woman' and 'and jinju is a tool', to which the op didn't have anything to say about.
that whole list was just a jab at jinju. if you take a look at his posting history, you'll see what i'm talking about.
jizzo! what's this all about?! |
Trust me... I got the whole thing. I guess it was, as Ryst would say, "!shoosh" over the OP's head. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
There are 330-pound linemen who run the 40 twice as fast as I do.
I'd be interested to see what a "realer" sport is, and what sport has athletes who are closer to the complete package of size, strength, speed, agility, and stamina. |
That sounds good but my question is, how many times a game are they asked to do that? how much of a break are they given between each time? American football strikes me as being as being a bit of a chess match, it's good for what it is but if you prefer more fluidity and less stoppages and big hits then rugby and rugby league are where it's at. You couldn't weigh 330 pounds and be much use on the rugby or rugby league field as a solic level of cardiovascular fitness is at the core of the game as opposed to some positions in football that require bulk over fitness. |
They're almost never asked to do that because it isn't necessary. The guys they are blocking for are much faster and if they block well, they'll be passed by their running back who was likely a high-school or college track star. Running 40 yards in 4.3 seconds takes one kind of athlete. Trying to push a 300 pound defensive lineman as much as you can for as long as you can takes another kind. How much of a break are they given between times? Depends. But look at it this way. Running backs, receivers, and defensive backs are pretty much sprinting on most plays. WHen you do dozens of sprints, you need breaks. The lineman are using all their might to push other huge guys who are resisting their push. Like when lifting weights, breaks are needed. 330 pound guys may not be much use in rugby, but I believe the rules are a bit diferent. Can you block in rugby? American football is just more specialized. |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Location: Suyuskis
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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I always thought American football was more about tactics, strategy, and actual game plans.
Rugby is more fun to watch though - more action, but still a bonehead sport in the end. |
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Kimchi Cowboy
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Studies have shown that in the average football game there are approximately 12 - TWELVE - minutes of ball-movin' ball-busting, body-bashing action, from snap to down. |
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Don Gately
Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Location: In a basement taking a severe beating
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Is American Football a "Real Sport?" |
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| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
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and american football is a real sport....
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Of course it is you retard. What the hell is the matter with you? |
Football is not a sport. It is much more important than that. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| The question is ludicrous. Of course it's a 'real' sport. The only reason anyone would ask such a ridiculous question is to start a silly argument. |
exactly.
i don't know if the OP wants lots of association football fans to step up and say its not 'the beautiful game' or a load of rugby fans to complain about the padding or what.
If this thread was about golf then I could understand. |
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Jizzo T. Clown
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Oh safeblad, once again you miss the mark. If you had any frame of reference from which to discuss this "argument" then I might actually listen to you for once. btw, when are you going to explain who that guy is in your avatar?
Those who said it is much more than a sport were right. Maybe I was a bit shortsighted to begin with. High school is football. And the sport weaves the fabric that holds communities together, young and old alike. Much like the way soccer can destroy communities in the UK. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
| Oh safeblad, once again you miss the mark. If you had any frame of reference from which to discuss this "argument" then I might actually listen to you for once. |
oh right you are being 'deep'... like when Bill Shankly said :
'Some people believe football is a matter of life and death.
I'm very disappointed with that attitude.
I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.'
| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
| btw, when are you going to explain who that guy is in your avatar? |
mike from spaced...aint no secret
| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
| . High school is football. And the sport weaves the fabric that holds communities together, young and old alike. Much like the way soccer can destroy communities in the UK. |
If you had any frame of reference from which to discuss this "argument" then I might actually listen to you for once. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| High school is football. |
It's true think this proves it:
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In dollars, coaches beat teachers
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
High school football still rules in Texas, and the proof is in the paychecks
Football coaches in the state's largest high schools generally earn significantly larger salaries than the state's teachers do, even many with graduate degrees and decades of experience.
Head coaches in Classes 5A and 4A - schools with 950 students or more - are making an average of $73,804 while teachers in those classifications average close to $42,400, according to records obtained by the Austin American-Statesman through the Texas Public Information Act.
Those numbers are similar to findings from 10 years ago, when The Associated Press reported that 5A and 4A coaches earned an average of $54,000 per year and the state's teachers averaged $31,000. Adjusting for inflation, the gap between teachers' and coaches' salaries has widened by 7.3 percent over the past 10 years. The 1995 salaries in today's dollars would be $69,488 for coaches and $40,207 for teachers.
The Austin American-Statesman asked every 5A and 4A school district in the state for the total compensation paid to head football coaches and for salaries of their highest-paid teachers, high school principals and superintendents for the 2005-06 school year.
Some of the findings from the 461 schools include:
* Five coaches in the state earn more than $100,000, with the largest salary going to Ennis High School's Sam Harrell, who earns $106,004.
* The lowest-paid coach is Houston Furr's Cornell Gray, who earns $42,300.
* Art Briles was the highest-paid coach in 1995-96, earning $82,658 at Stephenville High School. However, in today's dollars, Briles' 1995 salary would be $105,926. That would make Briles, currently the University of Houston coach, him the state's second-highest-paid coach, behind Harrell.
* Twenty-seven schools pay their football coaches more than they pay their principals, including Copperas Cove, where Head Coach Jack Welch earns $14,465 more than the principal, George Willey.
* The 10 highest-paid coaches in 2005-06 have combined to win seven state championships since 2000.
* Southlake Carroll Coach Todd Dodge, whose teams are 63-1 the past four years, ranks 36th on the salary list, earning $90,510.
* Football coaches in the state's largest school districts - including Austin, El Paso, Houston and Fort Worth - are at the bottom of the salary list.
But unlike 10 years ago, when the Texas Education Agency and state officials expressed disappointment in the disparity, most educators today say they understand the reason for the pay difference. |
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/08/27salary.html
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btw, when are you going to explain who that guy is in your avatar?
mike from spaced...aint no secret |
I thought everybody knew this, ACTIVATE! |
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wolfgang
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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very scary |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone who scoffs at American football because of the pads can go ahead and scoff at pro boxing because of the gloves. They're not only there to protect the opponent's head and body, but also to protect the puncher's hand.
As far as the running stuff goes, I went to my first soccer/football match on Sunday, and the first thing I noticed is that there is an awful lot of standing around on the field. The whole 90 minute argument doesn't hold water. There's more running than American football, but I doubt there's more energy expenditure.
I'll agree that rugby is probably a perfect balance of the two, power and conditioning, but I still prefer US Football... |
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milkweedma
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| no. its strategy and pure violence. Sport is intelligent and exciting with skill and Flows. |
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