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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| MANDRL wrote: |
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The pauses in American football are akin to those in a top-tier chess game. There are bits of furious exchange, followed by long bits of regrouping, adjusting, strategizing, etc. In no other sport is clock control as important.
Anyway, I like the fact that there's something that's just so unequivocally American. We're a blend and mix of so many other cultures' contributions, and have had so much of our own modern popular culture exported to the rest of the world it's nice to have something all to ourselves. |
I don't think it is unequivocally American. We have been playing football in Canada for 150 years. The first game was in 1861. |
I see what you mean, but when you think of football, you think of the US and not Canada. Much like if you think of hockey you think of Canada, even though it has been around in the US for years and US teams have won the Stanley Cup. |
Oh, I 100% agree, but that doesn't mean it is unequivocally American. When I think of baseball and basketball, I also think of America, but they aren't unequivocally American. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Also, just found this on wiki:
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| This marks the Harvard/McGill game as the first game of football in "North" America. |
So, the first game was between an American and Canadian team. |
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milkweedma
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| 'Grid Iron' is boring as h*ll so will never catch on anywhere civilized. The stopages just reflect capitalism at its consumerist extremes. Yankee doodle dandy land. The land of everything and nothing at all. |
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| milkweedma wrote: |
| 'Grid Iron' is boring as h*ll so will never catch on anywhere civilized. The stopages just reflect capitalism at its consumerist extremes. Yankee doodle dandy land. The land of everything and nothing at all. |
Dang, they serve haterade before noon in Korea? |
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mack4289

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: why american football won't catch on elsewhere |
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| The commercials, the endless f*cking commercials. Anyone used to watching soccer/rubgy, where the action is so fluid, is already turned off by the stoppage in the game itself. Throw in the fact that it's rare to see 5 minutes of game time pass without a round of commercials ("This is ouuuuuuuuuur country"), and I don't see it getting big anywhere else. Still love it, but hearing Mellencamp sing about ouuuuuuuuur country 50 times over three hours doesn't enhance the experience. |
And we care... Why?
Unlike soccer (and yes I said soccer) fans, we don't care if you watch football, we don't care if you like football, and we don't care if you think it's funny that we call it the World Championship even though only one country plays in it.
We watch it. We love it. We bet the GDP of a small nation on it every Sunday. It's a great game, and by watching soccer instead of it you punish no one but yourself. |
Agreed, but you're talking to a Bills fan who grew up in Niagara Falls, New York. Being a Bills fan is punishment enough. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I am also a Bills fan. What a sorry life we live. |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| My biggest problem with gridiron is the investment of time it takes to watch a match straight through to the end. The last Super Bowl I watched was nearly 4 hours! 4 hours! Christ, by the end I was just happy the damn thing was over so I could go and do something else. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Blame Network television. Football games have "TV Time outs" where they take a break just so they can air more commercials.
A football game that is NOT televised goes by pretty fast.
I think American football is too complicated for the casual viewer. |
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unknown9398

Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Location: Yeongcheon, S. Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| milkweedma wrote: |
| 'Grid Iron' is boring as h*ll so will never catch on anywhere civilized. The stopages just reflect capitalism at its consumerist extremes. Yankee doodle dandy land. The land of everything and nothing at all. |
I'm not normally a flag waver, but attitudes like yours turn me into one. |
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indytrucks

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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I think American football is too complicated for the casual viewer. |
I partially agree, but in a different way: I think gridiron is an over-complication of what is a pretty simple sport, like most sports. The sport involves running, throwing, catching and kicking. That's it. 'Red Dog Goose Strongside Flex' is just fancy code for 'throw the ball to the left.' And so on. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| milkweedma wrote: |
| 'Grid Iron' is boring as h*ll so will never catch on anywhere civilized. The stopages just reflect capitalism at its consumerist extremes. Yankee doodle dandy land. The land of everything and nothing at all. |
th epitomy of an inferiority complex. |
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