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low-ting



Joined: 01 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject: so i'm leaving tin pan tonight in Hongdae with a female... Reply with quote

and an American GI who had previously forewarned me that if he wasn't allowed to sexually predate one of my Korean female friends he would f*** me up. I, thinking he was merely drunk, proceeded to go about leaving with a recently acquainted female friend, where I was pounced upon by him and his American Army colleagues.

My question is this: Being relatively new to Korea as a teacher, is this standard operating procedure for the American military, when they are allowed out to drink?


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Don Gately



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Location: In a basement taking a severe beating

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: so i'm leaving tin pan tonight in Hongdae with a female. Reply with quote

low-ting wrote:
I wasn't the biggest fan of American people in general, before I came to Korea. This hasn't helped...


So, one GI handed you your ass, and now that's on all of us?

I suppose they don't have guys who drink too much and get into fights where you come from, huh? Strictly American phenomenon.

I never met you, man. And I probably never will. So if you want to not be my "biggest fan" because some other guy I never met and probably never will kicked your ass, so be it. I only have one question.

How will I ever learn to live with the disappointment?
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Nemo



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not usually standard, no.

Usually it's drunk Koreans who get offended for some reason and wanna cock block.

You should stop being such a stud.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: so i'm leaving tin pan tonight in Hongdae with a female. Reply with quote

low-ting wrote:
and an American GI who had previously forewarned me that if he wasn't allowed to sexually predate one of my Korean female friends he would f*** me up. I, thinking he was merely drunk, proceeded to go about leaving with a recently acquainted female friend, where I was pounced upon by him and his American Army colleagues.

My question is this: Being relatively new to Korea as a teacher, is this standard operating procedure for the American military, when they are allowed out to drink?

I wasn't the biggest fan of American people in general, before I came to Korea. This hasn't helped...


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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: so i'm leaving tin pan tonight in Hongdae with a female. Reply with quote

low-ting wrote:
I was pounced upon by him and his American Army colleagues.

(1) How many?
(2) "pounced" doesn't do much to explain what they did
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Passions



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no!!!! Ugly Americans!!!!!! *hiss hiss*

Rolling Eyes
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP--- GIs aren't even allowed in Hongdae, per Army regulations. The only soldiers you'll find there legitimately are the military police, whose job it is to round up any off duty GIs they find and bring them back to the base, where they usually face a punishment stiff enough to make them think twice about going there. If you ever see a soldier acting out in Hongdae, finagle his name out of him, contact one of the bases (most of them have official websites with an external access phone number listed), and snitch the f*cker out. Even if you don't have a name, file a complaint describing the act, and there's a good chance they'll send some extra MPs to Hongdae for a while. Some soldiers may not take the "no Hongdae" rule seriously, but the Military Police and the top brass certainly do.

Your experience is unusual for Hongdae. Most of the soldiers who make trips there keep a VERY low profile. I know one GI who only goes there when he's on extended furlough--- so he can spend several days growing facial hair and pose as a teacher.

Also, please get off your high horse. I'm American as well.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
OP--- GIs aren't even allowed in Hongdae, per Army regulations.

I thought they were allowed to go, but had to be back for curfew.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't like Americans, then I've got some good news for you. Whenever you see white people behaving badly in Korea, odds are they're Canadian! *Whew!*
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: so i'm leaving tin pan tonight in Hongdae with a female. Reply with quote

low-ting wrote:
blah blah blah


Quote:
Joined: 02 Sep 2007


How convenient.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current off-limits policy for Hongdae is from 9 pm to 5 am (aka 2100 to 0500).

If you know the person is in the US military (and you're not just jumping to that conclusion because of your own prejudices), you could always call the Military Police at 0505-724-3004, 0505-724-3005, 0505-724-6695. Of course, you need to remember it'll take about 20 minutes for the MPs to arrive given the distance from the base and the traffic in Seoul.
I suppose you should also first determine the person you're assuming is in the US Armed Forces and you're not just basing that guess on your own prejudices. Given the bigoted commentary in the OP, I might just go with he's guessing.

You could also call the Korean Police at 112. But you'd have to wait until the person you wish them to arrest has actually committed a crime. If the arrested person actually is in the US Armed Forces, the Police will turn him over to the MPs.

By the way, low-ting, what is your employer's policy on "when you're allowed out to drink?" I wasn't the biggest fan of bigoted commentary before I read this thread and your opening post certainly hasn't helped.
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behindtheveil



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the GIs are caught they lose a rank. They have to be pretty stupid to show up in hongdae after hours.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh good grief... people.. this guy came here to vent a bit and ask for some advice. So he expressed a personal preference but so what.. he didn't ask you to endorse his preference. He came here to ask if being *pounced* on was a standard practice amongst the military and all you have to say is yes or no.

Whatever his opinion is of American, this is not the issue here.

THe issues, as I see it, are:

1. is it appropriate for someone who represents a country to demand to have sex with a woman he meets for the first time;

2. should the OP be threatended by this military personnel;

3. should the OP be pounced on?

Obviously there are many different sides of the story and so far we have heard the OP's side. We probably won't ever hear about what really happened during the night.

So I would just say that Seoul is just like everywhere else in the world. Be prepared for fights when you go for a night out!!!!

(And this is why, inter alia, I don't go out.. LOL).

Wink
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you report him to the MPs?
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newteacher



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Oh good grief... people.. this guy came here to vent a bit and ask for some advice. So he expressed a personal preference but so what.. he didn't ask you to endorse his preference. He came here to ask if being *pounced* on was a standard practice amongst the military and all you have to say is yes or no.

Whatever his opinion is of American, this is not the issue here.

THe issues, as I see it, are:

1. is it appropriate for someone who represents a country to demand to have sex with a woman he meets for the first time;

2. should the OP be threatended by this military personnel;

3. should the OP be pounced on?

Obviously there are many different sides of the story and so far we have heard the OP's side. We probably won't ever hear about what really happened during the night.

So I would just say that Seoul is just like everywhere else in the world. Be prepared for fights when you go for a night out!!!!

(And this is why, inter alia, I don't go out.. LOL).

Wink


You're right, but he was the one who had to throw in the last little bit about how he's always had a low opinion of Americans. He deserves to get flamed. Had he left out the last part I'm sure he would have gotten some better answers, but as an American I'm a little offended as well. If I based my opinions of Kiwi's, Aussie's, Brits, and Canadians on one or two people that I've met here I'd think those countries were full of retarded drunks, but I know better than to make such a baseless generalization.
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