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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.
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I know another woman who has had some pretty creepy guys follow her from the subway to home as well.
I don't exactly know any solutions.
BUT I was thinking... maybe it would be helpful for women to carry some paper with these words written in Korean:
"A STRANGER IS FOLLOWING ME.
HELP ME GET RID OF HIM" written in Korean.
I am sure many people would respond to help if the message was conveyed like that in Korean. Plus you could just show the paper to anyone.
(Superfly - can the picture be reduced?. Can't read this page without heavy scrolling to the right. Cool looking dog though!) |
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All one has to say is after running into any business is :Dowajuseyo! Point your finger at the guy if he follows you in and scream: Byontae!!!!
They will chase him out with broomsticks. |
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silver_butterfly
Joined: 12 Nov 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I had an experience that creeped me out a few months ago...it was about 6pm, still light outside, I had walked in to my apartment building and was just outside my apartment getting my key out, when I catch something in the corner of my eye...about 2 metres away there's a 20-something Korean 'pleasuring' himself while watching me - it was obvious he must have followed me! Now THAT creeped me out for a while, more so 'cause he knew exactly where I live! Luckily for me (cause I was just shocked and looked away) I was with a friend and she shouted at him to go away, threw her ice-cream at him and when he didn't budge she started to run at him while shouting.........I've never seem a guy move so fast! He flew down the steps and out of the building, never to be seen again. We're not sure at which point he pulled his pants up!!! I laugh about it now, but I do feel nervous walking on my own to my own apartment building now. I'm just glad I happened to have a friend with me this time! |
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PeterDragon
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Do they sell pepper spray in South Korea? That stuff's a very effective incapacitator, just be careful not to get any on yourself in the process. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| merkurix wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
I know another woman who has had some pretty creepy guys follow her from the subway to home as well.
I don't exactly know any solutions.
BUT I was thinking... maybe it would be helpful for women to carry some paper with these words written in Korean:
"A STRANGER IS FOLLOWING ME.
HELP ME GET RID OF HIM" written in Korean.
I am sure many people would respond to help if the message was conveyed like that in Korean. Plus you could just show the paper to anyone.
(Superfly - can the picture be reduced?. Can't read this page without heavy scrolling to the right. Cool looking dog though!) |
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All one has to say is after running into any business is :Dowajuseyo! Point your finger at the guy if he follows you in and scream: Byontae!!!!
They will chase him out with broomsticks. |
There's the advice you need, Britney. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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My coworkers swear that they never get bothered by creepy guys, but I am like a magnet for creepy guys. One day, I was standing at the crosswalk, minding my own business, lost in my thoughts and not really paying attention to my surroundings. This was in broad daylight in the afternoon. All of a sudden, I turn and see an old Korean guy with his face right up next to the side of my face. he scared the living daylights out of me, so I swore at him to f off and called him byuntae. He just stod there grinning at me, and a Korean lady at the crosswalk didn't even bat an eyelash at what I just said.  Don't expect most people to help you out. I also had a dirty bum chasing me around in Gangbyeon subway station in 2005 while I was waiting on my Korean boyfriend. I screamed at him to go away, leave me alone, f off, and everyone, including a couple of fellow foreign guys just stood there, and watched me running and screaming and crying. The guy was grabbing my arm and I was scared. Again, in the afternoon. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| My coworkers swear that they never get bothered by creepy guys, but I am like a magnet for creepy guys. One day, I was standing at the crosswalk, minding my own business, lost in my thoughts and not really paying attention to my surroundings. This was in broad daylight in the afternoon. All of a sudden, I turn and see an old Korean guy with his face right up next to the side of my face. he scared the living daylights out of me, so I swore at him to f off and called him byuntae. He just stod there grinning at me, and a Korean lady at the crosswalk didn't even bat an eyelash at what I just said. Don't expect most people to help you out. I also had a dirty bum chasing me around in Gangbyeon subway station in 2005 while I was waiting on my Korean boyfriend. I screamed at him to go away, leave me alone, f off, and everyone, including a couple of fellow foreign guys just stood there, and watched me running and screaming and crying. The guy was grabbing my arm and I was scared. Again, in the afternoon. |
A smiling face attack! That should be a move on Street Fighter 8. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Just recently I was walking home from work late in the evening when a guy came up to me and stuck his hand out and said, "Hello." Being that I live in a small area, I get that sort of thing a lot, and I try not to let it bother me. I'm usually game for a few hellos and how are yous before they run out of things to say and scamper off.
I was in a fairly good mood that night, so I shook his hand, smiled and said hi. But then...here it comes...."sexy woman!" I just nodded and pulled my hand out of his. "Thanks," I said, and started to walk away. He ran up behind me and grabbed the back of my shirt and pulled on it saying something in a combination of English and Korean that would probably make no sense to an English speaker OR a Korean speaker. I pulled myself out of his grip and kept walking, I figured he'd get the hint. He then grabbed my arm, hard. I'm wrenched my arm back away from him, but he was clinging on pretty good. I'm not particularly violent or strong, so I was trying to decide what my best course of action was, and I was getting a little worried. I was in a secluded area behind some apartments and hadn't seen any people walking by in the past few minutes.
Then I heard someone shout, "Hey, friend! Hi! Hello! Here!" This totally random Korean guy in his late teens/early 20s comes running out of nowhere and starts berating the creepy guy, who promptly lets go of my arm. Then the young guy steered me away from the creepy guy, chattering away in Korean as if we were the best of friends. As soon as the creepy guy was gone, the young guy smiled at me and said, "Sorry, no English." Then he shook his finger at me and said, "Be careful!" Then he vanished as quickly as he had appeared. |
I'm horrified to hear about both of these situations. I was REALLY impressed at the behaviour of the guys around you though. Sarah, I thought of a "guardian angel" in this situation too. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: WHY CAN'T GUYS TAKE A HINT!?! - a rant... |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
| creepy creepy creepy |
That's horrible. I've had guys refuse to take no for an answer before, but not that bad.
Except for that one (literally) retarded guy who would regularly come into the store where I worked and either stare at me or insistently try to pick me up, even after "no no no" and "get the *beep* out of here" and "I am going to call the police". He couldn't understand the problem with his behavior even when I DID call the police and they spent 15 minutes trying to explain what he was doing wrong. At least he never came back after that. Still makes me mad thinking about it.
| bejarano-korea wrote: |
Or do what my sister did - carry a knife and when someone bothers ya - stab the barstard!  |
One of my professors told me about a friend of his who would carry a giant hatpin when she rode the subway (train?) in India so she could stab men who grabbed at her. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| My coworkers swear that they never get bothered by creepy guys, but I am like a magnet for creepy guys. One day, I was standing at the crosswalk, minding my own business, lost in my thoughts and not really paying attention to my surroundings. This was in broad daylight in the afternoon. All of a sudden, I turn and see an old Korean guy with his face right up next to the side of my face. he scared the living daylights out of me, so I swore at him to f off and called him byuntae. He just stod there grinning at me, and a Korean lady at the crosswalk didn't even bat an eyelash at what I just said. Don't expect most people to help you out. I also had a dirty bum chasing me around in Gangbyeon subway station in 2005 while I was waiting on my Korean boyfriend. I screamed at him to go away, leave me alone, f off, and everyone, including a couple of fellow foreign guys just stood there, and watched me running and screaming and crying. The guy was grabbing my arm and I was scared. Again, in the afternoon. |
Maybe the people around you thought you actually liked the attention. You know? Korean people are very perceptive. The fact that most westerners don't acknowledge and ignore someone's feelings while Koreans bluntly jump on the situation and remark about it makes them the most intelligent people on the planet. So them not reacting to your objections only solidifies the reality of you enjoying the man's advances.
Think about it. |
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minorthreat
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Location: in your base, killing your mans
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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3) If you measure humanity by the behavior of the Nigerians, the world will seem like a dark place indeed.*
*Lest someone jump down my throat for making a statement that's too general--- I will admit I have met some cool Nigerians in Korea, and I had some fairly nice Nigerian friends in Minneapolis. That doesn't change the fact that SOME Nigerians seem to have the market cornered on Internet scams and general creepiness. |
A Kenyan friend of mine in university once remarked to me "I wouldn't trust a Nigerian if he told me the sun was shining and my watch read noon." |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Like in Korean dramas when the guy stands outside the house of his girlfriend and screams her name in the rain. That's not being a psycho! That shows passion!! |
Actually, that's a classic scene from a Tennessee Williams play and movie, Streetcar Named Desire.
Marlon Brando : Stella! Stella!
Actually, I always thought the "passion" in that film was a little bit "creepy." I think Tennessee Williams did, too. But at the time, a lot of women thought Marlon Brandon just dreeeeeaaaammmmy ...
There's also the famous balcony scene in Romeo and Juliet. NEVER heard anyone call that "creepy," though.
Never shouted at a woman's window myself, but once I did toss a pebble or two at the window to get her attention because the doorbell wasn't working and cell phones hadn't been invented yet.
I think the lady who authored the OP acted correctly, though I also see no reason that she needed to feel fear. From her account, there no indication the man wanted to threaten or harm her in any way. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I know how you feel. I have women come up and ask for a kiss sometimes, usually saying "handsome, handsome". Basically an invasion of privacy. They only do it when they outnumber you, too. I'm considering the pepper spray.
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Well, I was afraid mostly because after repeatedly telling him he was being too pushy, he kept trying to find out where I lived. Then he tried to follow me to my home. Since he wasn't taking an OBVIOUS hint, and continued to push information, had he followed me home, who is to say he couldn't have become more pushy?
I know that's thinking far too ahead of myself, and perhaps being paranoid, but I was scared, as I think a few other females would be as well. Can't help how I felt. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin, don't apologize for being rattled, any woman would have, but you handled it really well. Some guys just don't get how vulnerable women are, and how that affects our perception of things |
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just4u
Joined: 30 May 2007
Location: Georgia, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Just recently I was walking home from work late in the evening when a guy came up to me and stuck his hand out and said, "Hello." Being that I live in a small area, I get that sort of thing a lot, and I try not to let it bother me. I'm usually game for a few hellos and how are yous before they run out of things to say and scamper off.
I was in a fairly good mood that night, so I shook his hand, smiled and said hi. But then...here it comes...."sexy woman!" I just nodded and pulled my hand out of his. "Thanks," I said, and started to walk away. He ran up behind me and grabbed the back of my shirt and pulled on it saying something in a combination of English and Korean that would probably make no sense to an English speaker OR a Korean speaker. I pulled myself out of his grip and kept walking, I figured he'd get the hint. He then grabbed my arm, hard. I'm wrenched my arm back away from him, but he was clinging on pretty good. I'm not particularly violent or strong, so I was trying to decide what my best course of action was, and I was getting a little worried. I was in a secluded area behind some apartments and hadn't seen any people walking by in the past few minutes.
Then I heard someone shout, "Hey, friend! Hi! Hello! Here!" This totally random Korean guy in his late teens/early 20s comes running out of nowhere and starts berating the creepy guy, who promptly lets go of my arm. Then the young guy steered me away from the creepy guy, chattering away in Korean as if we were the best of friends. As soon as the creepy guy was gone, the young guy smiled at me and said, "Sorry, no English." Then he shook his finger at me and said, "Be careful!" Then he vanished as quickly as he had appeared. |
Nice story. Sounds like a guardian angel! Hope nothing like that happens to you again... |
That's exactly what I was thinking...guardian angel who speaks a different language. Nice to know they're still there even when you're traveling, huh?  |
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