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		peppermint
 
  
  Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:46 pm    Post subject: submissive? (Split from "Marrying a Korean") | 
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				(Split off, because I think it's moving off the original topic and deserves it's own thread)
 
 
 
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	  | She is very capable of being independent, that's one of the reasons why I married her. We rationally discuss all things. | 
	 
 
 
 
 
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	  | A woman must be submissive to her husband. Now I don't mean that the man must dominate, but I believe that the man has the final say in matters. | 
	 
 
 
 
So, let me get this straight- you married because she is capable of being independent, but you should get the final say in matters.
 
 
If you go into a rational discussion with the expectation that you shouuld automatically have the final say, doesn't that mean that the rational discussion is essentially a waste of time? It doesn't sound like you value that independence much. | 
			 
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		Tiger Beer
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:53 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Alot of Korean women are very well-educated, very intelligent, have alot of independent thought, and definetely quite independent and healthy and of their own mind.. even if its a determinely Korean mind.
 
 
In my experience, any seemingly 'submissive' woman is lying to you.. and the truth will come out.. there is no such thing as a truly 'submissive' human being.. if they do that.. its a lure to catch you.. and once they got you.. you'll be caught in the web.. muahahahaha | 
			 
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		anae
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:07 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Why do we have to define marriage along gender lines?
 
 
Could Giant's comments be religiously based?  From what I see, fundamentalist Christians are primary advocates of the woman must be submissive line. | 
			 
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