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thepeel
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 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: Bounty on Swedish cartoonist |
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CAIRO, Egypt - The leader of al-Qaida in Iraq offered money for the murder of a Swedish cartoonist and his editor who recently produced images deemed insulting to Islam, according to a statement carried by Islamist Web sites Saturday.
In a half hour audio file entitled "They plotted yet God too was plotting," Abu Omar al-Baghdadi also named the other insurgent groups in Iraq that al-Qaida was fighting and promised new attacks, particularly against the minority Yazidi sect.
"We are calling for the assassination of cartoonist Lars Vilks who dared insult our Prophet, peace be upon him, and we announce a reward during this generous month of Ramadan of $100,000 for the one who kills this criminal," the transcript on the Web site said.
The al-Qaida leader upped the reward for Vilks' death to $150,000 if he was "slaughtered like a lamb" and offered $50,000 for the killing of the editor of Nerikes Allehanda, the Swedish paper that printed Vilks' cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad with a dog's body on Aug. 19. |
I'm sure only a tiny minority support the death of free speech for islam.
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The representative of the OIC stressed that the Islamic countries deplored States that linked freedom of belief with freedom of expression and opinion in order to shrug off responsibility. "Unrestricted and disrespectful enjoyment of freedom of expression was contrary to the spirit of peaceful dialogue. Equating religions with extremist terrorism was dangerous and it was essential to de-link terrorist acts from the right to peacefully follow one's faith," the diplomat added. The representative of the OIC said efforts were needed to eliminate intolerance and discrimination, including through education and interfaith dialogue. |
http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1841424&Language=en
As in, in mosques around the world we will preach and command death to kuffar and if you so much as talk back rudely we will send out rabid young men to kill you a-la Rushdie in your streets. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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Sweden never sent troops to Iraq  |
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chris_J2
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Useful background info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Vilks_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
So did the Danish cartoonist with images posted by Jyllands-Posten (which was responsible for the alleged defamatory publication in September 2005), survive his death threats, (unlike Theo Van Gogh)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
I liked this quote by editor F. Rose:
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The cartoonists treated Islam the same way they treat Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and other religions. And by treating Muslims in Denmark as equals they made a point: We are integrating you into the Danish tradition of satire because you are part of our society, not strangers. The cartoons are including, rather than excluding, Muslims.
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nautilus
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Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Sweden never sent troops to Iraq |
If your point is that nations can't escape islamic wrath by withholding troops from Iraq/Afghanistan..then I agree with you. |
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thepeel
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STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - A Swedish artist threatened with death over his drawing of Islam's Prophet Mohammad has been told by police he is no longer safe living at home.
Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, leader of the self-styled Islamic State in Iraq, offered up to $150,000 on Saturday for the murder of artist Lars Vilks for drawing the head of the Prophet on the body of a dog.
"I can't live here," Vilks told Reuters by phone. "SAPO (Sweden's security service) have judged that it (the threat) is very serious."
He was allowed to go home and collect some things but it may be a long time before he is able to return again, he said.
"We have had contact with him (Vilks) and together with him are taking the decisions that are necessary," a police spokesman said.
In an audiotape posted on the Internet, Baghdadi offered a lower bounty for the death of the editor of daily Nerikes Allehanda, which published the drawing last month in what it called a defense of free speech.
Top Swedish firms such as truck maker Volvo, mobile network builder Ericsson and retailer Ikea were also threatened unless an apology was forthcoming for the drawing.
The threats against Vilks and the newspaper mirror a crisis in Denmark last year.
Cartoons published in a Danish paper and reprinted around the world sparked riots in the Middle East, Asia and Africa in which at least 50 people died, and attacks against Danish embassies and a boycott of Danish goods. |
Can you feel the tolerance? |
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Dome Vans
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STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - A Swedish artist threatened with death over his drawing of Islam's Prophet Mohammad has been told by police he is no longer safe living at home.
Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, leader of the self-styled Islamic State in Iraq, offered up to $150,000 on Saturday for the murder of artist Lars Vilks for drawing the head of the Prophet on the body of a dog.
"I can't live here," Vilks told Reuters by phone. "SAPO (Sweden's security service) have judged that it (the threat) is very serious."
He was allowed to go home and collect some things but it may be a long time before he is able to return again, he said.
"We have had contact with him (Vilks) and together with him are taking the decisions that are necessary," a police spokesman said.
In an audiotape posted on the Internet, Baghdadi offered a lower bounty for the death of the editor of daily Nerikes Allehanda, which published the drawing last month in what it called a defense of free speech.
Top Swedish firms such as truck maker Volvo, mobile network builder Ericsson and retailer Ikea were also threatened unless an apology was forthcoming for the drawing.
The threats against Vilks and the newspaper mirror a crisis in Denmark last year.
Cartoons published in a Danish paper and reprinted around the world sparked riots in the Middle East, Asia and Africa in which at least 50 people died, and attacks against Danish embassies and a boycott of Danish goods. |
Can you feel the tolerance? |
D�r h�r �r helt tokigt! Sverige �r en av den mesta tolerant lander I v�rlden. Dom har n�n suver�nt tidningen att har frispr�k. Varf�r han har livshot p� honom, jag har ingen arning. Det �r �freedom of speech gone crazy� men det h�nder.
L�jligt |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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"Dome Vans"
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D�r h�r �r helt tokigt! Sverige �r en av den mesta tolerant lander I v�rlden. Dom har n�n suver�nt tidningen att har frispr�k. Varf�r han har livshot p� honom, jag har ingen arning. Det �r �freedom of speech gone crazy� men det h�nder.
L�jligt |
그럼에도 불구하고, 너보다 한국말 더 잘해 |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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"Dome Vans"
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D�r h�r �r helt tokigt! Sverige �r en av den mesta tolerant lander I v�rlden. Dom har n�n suver�nt tidningen att har frispr�k. Varf�r han har livshot p� honom, jag har ingen arning. Det �r �freedom of speech gone crazy� men det h�nder.
L�jligt |
그럼에도 불구하고, 너보다 한국말 더 잘해 |
I hope so Joo!  |
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JMO
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Sweden never sent troops to Iraq |
If your point is that nations can't escape islamic wrath by withholding troops from Iraq/Afghanistan..then I agree with you. |
Agreed also..but this doesn't mean it was a good idea to invade Iraq. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Then, how can we escape "islamic wrath"? |
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Dome Vans
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Which came first though: The western interference in the middle east or the Islamic wrath?
A bit like the chicken and the egg. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Then, how can we escape "islamic wrath"? |
I'm not sure how to escape it, but invading middle eastern countries is probably not a good idea. Escaping it isn't really the goal, we can't bow down to it. I say fight it in our own countries and not try to restrict free speech as in this case. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Which came first though: The western interference in the middle east or the Islamic wrath?
A bit like the chicken and the egg. |
islamic wrath. Brush up on your islamic history please. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
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| Then, how can we escape "islamic wrath"? |
I'm not sure how to escape it, but invading middle eastern countries is probably not a good idea. Escaping it isn't really the goal, we can't bow down to it. I say fight it in our own countries and not try to restrict free speech as in this case. |
Not invading is a good start.
Should we be accepting more muslims into Western states at a time where there is an organized attack on Western values by muslim organizations and individuals?
Or, should we turn all Western countries into police states with no freedom of speech at all because we are too tolerant to do what is needed? |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Bounty on Swedish cartoonist |
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If I had a million dollars......
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CAIRO, Egypt - The leader of al-Qaida in Iraq offered money for the murder of a Swedish cartoonist and his editor who recently produced images deemed insulting to Islam, according to a statement carried by Islamist Web sites Saturday.
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There must be some rich Christian capitalist somewhere willing to put a bounty on the head of the al-Quaida leader in Iraq...
Better yet; put a murder bounty on the head of anyone who collects the bounty for the murder of the Swedish cartoonist.  |
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