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sarbinson
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 Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: How do you get one of those university jobs with 3-4 months |
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| vacation? I'm sure it takes several years to work up to that kind of position, wondering if anyone here has done it. What is the pay like? Would you be able to save enough to travel around Asia during your several months off? |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Network. Cruise all the job boards. Have a Master's degree or be working on one, preferably in TESL. Go to the universities in person/phone, etc.
Yes, you will be able to save enough to travel.
I got my job by:
Having a connection that I emailed, asking where to apply. I have a master's degree and 2 years experience at a hagwon. |
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sarbinson
Joined: 05 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info- how much time/money is involved in getting a Master's in TEFL? Would you mind sharing what the salary/time off are for your position? Thanks! |
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daz1979
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do
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You actually don't even need a masters. I know of two people that are working for universities and only have a BA. Maybe you would need an MA to be considered for all vacancies, but you can work at a university without one.
It really is about who you know. My Korean friend is on the board of education and said that he can hook me up with either a university or good public school position next year.
Good luck. |
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Hanson
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| How do you make it in Hollywood? |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| If you want a uni gig in Seoul...it's not going to happen. If you want one in the country or a small town...doable. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If you want a uni gig in Seoul...it's not going to happen. If you want one in the country or a small town...doable. |
I don't know about that. I know several people who have gotten jobs at the big schools in Seoul with little more than a BA and some experience. It seem who you know is more important that what you degree you have even in Seoul. |
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FistFace
Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!
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| If you want a uni gig in Seoul...it's not going to happen. If you want one in the country or a small town...doable. |
I don't know about that. I know several people who have gotten jobs at the big schools in Seoul with little more than a BA and some experience. It seem who you know is more important that what you degree you have even in Seoul. |
I'm at a smaller uni in Seoul, and I only had a BA+ over 3 years of experience at hagwons and public jobs. I know for a fact that I was about 4th choice on the list because of this, however. Their top candidates bailed because they got better offers (and one was hired to fill another position here).
You should know that many schools form a committee to hire a foreign teacher. They take it very seriously initially, and make their offer/s to the top candidate/s.
If you've been here long, you know that Koreans RARELY plan ahead, and many schools who don't do a lot of hiring just don't expect that they will be turned down. They're a Uni, after-all -- every foreign teacher's dream! Every waygook in ESL mastrubates to the thought of working for their glorious institution, and they know it! They feel they can take their sweet time, because they have a stack of 500 resumes representing every desperate hagwon teacher within 10 kilometers. They've tossed those aside, however, and are keying-in on the experienced MA-people.
Then comes the shock...
After taking the initial search so seriously, and pining over who to make their first offer to, they find NONE of those top MA people are left -- they've taken better jobs at better unis. At this point, the committee becomes desperate, and the profts start to feel their little search is taking up too much of their time. That's when they start jumping at those further-on down the food-chain. And here's a little piece of advice for you: THEY IMMEDIATELY GRAVITATE TOWARDS THE BEST PHOTOS!
This intense search is delegated to a secretary who digs through hundreds of BA-holder photos, deciding, "He looks good... she looks good."
This is where the lowly BA-holders like you and me can get lucky in the 2nd or even 3rd round.
If we look right, and/or know somebody on the inside.
There's a lot to be said about "right place -- right time." There is also a lot to be said about your photo. If you're at all serious about getting a uni job, then get your butt (and a suit) into a Fuji or Kodak photo store and get a nice business-looking color passport-sized photo taken of yourself. It only costs about 11,000 won, and you get maybe 8 to 10 photos.
DO NOT send photos of yourself at a frat party, holding a beer.
DO NOT send a webcam shot, or a hand-held digicam pic of yourself.
DO NOT send a photo of yourself in a fur-covered Univ. of BC sweater, holding your flea-ridden cat.
DO NOT send a pic of yourself oogling your Korean girlfriend (yes, seen this many times).
Send an actual photo as described above, clipped to the front of your resume/cover letter, and not something printed out on white printer paper with an ink jet. That looks cheap.
If you don't look professional, and you are not HERE in Korea and AVAILABLE to interview, you will be ignored. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: Been in my Uni job 4 years |
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| I have the MA TESOL, but where I am you do not need it. Most of the teachers only have BA's. One of the Teacher Coordinators, that was here when I first came, has a BA and is one of the best teachers I know. |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Typhoon wrote: |
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| If you want a uni gig in Seoul...it's not going to happen. If you want one in the country or a small town...doable. |
I don't know about that. I know several people who have gotten jobs at the big schools in Seoul with little more than a BA and some experience. It seem who you know is more important that what you degree you have even in Seoul. |
All I was saying was this.
If you want a big city...be prepared to wait. I myself would never live/work in Seoul. |
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