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spliff
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| It did leave much more than a mark. That was a Loose Change distortion. Had Loose Changed moved the camera to the left, it would have revealed a much larger hole consistent with a plane having crashed into it. |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Mindmetoo...once again...question with a question.
You ask about the government and how are they responsible. I don't see it as the government being responsible. I see it more being on the extremely wealthy of our society.
Haliburton share holders to begin with. Yes, an easy answer, but a fact at that. They have profitted more than you and I could ever imagine.
One could say Bush was killing some time before he had to make some very important decisions in terms of the school house affair. (does make sense if you had something to do with it, right?) Do you not find it odd that he sat there for so long? As mentioned earlier, everyone ran to a TV! EVERYONE! Your the leader of a country that is under attack. And your kicking it with kids!?
You ask me not to give you evidence that you do not want to hear or accept by giving me restrictions on my reply. But at the end of the day, it appears to me as a snowball effect. One thing has led to another....9/11...Freedom Act...Iraq....no WMD.... still in Iraq....and leading to a confrontation with Iran now. A plan that is hatched does not take minutes...it takes years.
So before you ask me another question with a question to a question, I ask you this....for you, has 9-11, the Freedom Act, WMD not found, Haliburton, the American military and its allies in arms in Iraq (not fair to just say the US military) ever make you raise your eyebrow and go hmmmm or have you accepted it as you have seen it?
I ask anyone here for that matter...you want me to answer your questions, but I first ask you to answer mine. Does all the above seem normal to you?
Damn I wish we were in a pub with a full pack of butts and keg of Guiness! Though it could get ugly!
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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Osama was not in a US military hospital. If you thin so prove. You raised it.
Why did Bush go into Iraq. Two reasons: Because he could, just like Slicky Willy Clinton's flavoured cigar. And because he was giving the Islamic world a don't f@ck with us message for both the US and the Israelis.
About the plane into the Pentagon. Aluminum burns. Most of the darn fuselage burned up and the other parts became itty bitty pieces.
The flash in your video is aluminum burning under extreme heat and pressure. 21% of the solid propellant in rockets is aluminum> It burns at nearly 5000 K.
Don't believe me? Googgle "aluminum burns". You have all of the brains of a guppy and the grace of a sex demented Chihuahua humping and old ladies leg. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Mindmetoo...once again...question with a question
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Yes because I don't see how your evidence is evidence for a conspiracy to attack the WTC et al. Sorry, debate isn't just each side presenting facts. We're allowed to question each other on meaning.
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You ask about the government and how are they responsible. I don't see it as the government being responsible. I see it more being on the extremely wealthy of our society.
Haliburton share holders to begin with. Yes, an easy answer, but a fact at that. They have profitted more than you and I could ever imagine. |
Again, how does profiting from a tragedy mean you caused the tragedy? My friend's father makes American flag pins. He made out quite well after 9/11. Did he cause 9/11?
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| One could say Bush was killing some time before he had to make some very important decisions in terms of the school house affair. (does make sense if you had something to do with it, right?) Do you not find it odd that he sat there for so long? As mentioned earlier, everyone ran to a TV! EVERYONE! Your the leader of a country that is under attack. And your kicking it with kids!? |
Do I find it odd coming from a man of known inaction? Not really. No.
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| You ask me not to give you evidence that you do not want to hear or accept by giving me restrictions on my reply. But at the end of the day, it appears to me as a snowball effect. One thing has led to another....9/11...Freedom Act...Iraq....no WMD.... still in Iraq....and leading to a confrontation with Iran now. A plan that is hatched does not take minutes...it takes years. |
Again, that's all posthoc. When a gunman goes on a rampage and kills dozens of people, people use it to advance their agenda (gun control, prayer in school, more cops on the street, etc.) Does that mean they were behind the shooter?
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| So before you ask me another question with a question to a question, I ask you this....for you, has 9-11, the Freedom Act, WMD not found, Haliburton, the American military and its allies in arms in Iraq (not fair to just say the US military) ever make you raise your eyebrow and go hmmmm or have you accepted it as you have seen it? |
It makes me go "wow, some people really took advantage of this tragedy."
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| Does all the above seem normal to you? |
What should normally happen after a massive terrorist strike? Yes, it is normal to me that a guy with a middling level IQ who got into power not via his keen intelligence but who his dad was couldn't field good people to handle a crisis of a 9/11 or Katrina proportion. Still don't mean to me they were behind the plot. Sorry. |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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Mindmetoo....you got your take and I got mine...fair enough. Your analogies make sense, but on a much smaller scale. It is like comparing an elephant and a mouse, but both have 4 legs...I do respect your insight on actual facts and government advances.
I truly feel that 9-11 was the beginning for chance to take over Iraq and its oil. A bunch of Saudis are highjackers and Bush attacks Iraq. Doesn't make sense to me.
Contrarian...your a funny guy. You must love teaching, being the center of attention and all. Do you have a big red shoes and a wig to go with your act? a guppy...a chihuahua...wow, who would have thought of that cross breed! Funny guy for sure...going to go back and read it again. Thanks funny guy. As for your input on aluminum, more to the point. Why don't you take that route next time...funny guy.
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| DaeguKid wrote: |
Mindmetoo....you got your take and I got mine...fair enough. Your analogies make sense, but on a much smaller scale. It is like comparing an elephant and a mouse, but both have 4 legs...I do respect your insight on actual facts and government advances.
I truly feel that 9-11 was the beginning for chance to take over Iraq and its oil. A bunch of Saudis are highjackers and Bush attacks Iraq. Doesn't make sense to me. |
Regardless of how you interpret the posthoc actions, what evidence (besides Bush's posthoc actions) lead you to believe the official story is not correct one? |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| They also condemn "the mainstream media" for "not reporting" the junk science. |
No. Those two guys at Fox are just impertinent twerps. They are rude and insulting. They are not reporters but stirrers.
They are called Higarty and some other fukface. Can't remember exactly, and if I did I wouldn't repeat their real names as they don't deserve it.
I think you know who I am talking about. That other cunt at Fox, that big braun guy who picked on people smaller than him on air ...
"You are not republican? Wait outside after this, I wanna smash your face."
This is the kind of person who is being given the duties of informing a nation.
Well done America. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| They also condemn "the mainstream media" for "not reporting" the junk science. |
No. Those two guys at Fox are just impertinent twerps. They are rude and insulting. They are not reporters but stirrers.
They are called Higarty and some other fukface. Can't remember exactly, and if I did I wouldn't repeat their real names as they don't deserve it.
I think you know who I am talking about. That other *beep* at Fox, that big braun guy who picked on people smaller than him on air ...
"You are not republican? Wait outside after this, I wanna smash your face."
This is the kind of person who is being given the duties of informing a nation.
Well done America. |
I thought you left.
I rember you said you were taking your ball and going home.
What happened why have you returned.
Oh I see you left your ball at home.
Two independent non-US source had similar stories see my previous.
Try to keep up please. |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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why cant post 911 government actions lead me to believe that the "story" we are given is not the real one?
so to get this straight...this is a question leading to another question with limitations to an answer, with another question....right? or have i just lost count?
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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why cant post 911 government actions lead me to believe that the "story" we are given is not the real one?
so to get this straight...this is a question leading to another question with limitations to an answer, with another question....right? or have i just lost count?
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You are delirious with your own delusions. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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thought you left.
I rember you said you were taking your ball and going home.
What happened why have you returned.
Oh I see you left your ball at home.
Two independent non-US source had similar stories see my previous.
Try to keep up please.
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I just hate Fox, not your comment.
PS:No individual here runs this thread. It is a free space for people to express their opinions at any time.
Or, do you disagree?
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| Osama was not in a US military hospital. |
Give us a good citation and I'll stop writing here, free space or no.
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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why cant post 911 government actions lead me to believe that the "story" we are given is not the real one?
so to get this straight...this is a question leading to another question with limitations to an answer, with another question....right? or have i just lost count?
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You are delirious with your own delusions. |
hmmm? delirious with my own delusioins? as opposed to being delirious with someone elses delusions? wow you told me....right....anyhow, I am just pointing out that how mindmetoo has asked me to restrict my answers.
So you too then believe that 911, Freedom Act, Iraq War, no WMD has no correlation? Nothing makes you think about it? Nothing makes you in the least wonder something doesn't seem right? Nothing?
DK.
ps, welcome back Cheonmunka...oh wait, you never left, the board is open 24/7...well not for everyone i guess! |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Why's everyone welcoming me back? I had time to go through the evidence a bit more and realized I am likely wrong about my engine stuff, so wrote that just yesterday. |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Why's everyone welcoming me back? I had time to go through the evidence a bit more and realized I am likely wrong about my engine stuff, so wrote that just yesterday. |
as far as I'm concerned you never left.... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| why cant post 911 government actions lead me to believe that the "story" we are given is not the real one? |
Which story? I don't believe the Bush story that he invaded Iraq because of WMDs and to stop him from hosting terrorism against the USA.
Bad things happen. People in power use those to advance their agenda. Don't mean they caused the bad thing.
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| Osama was not in a US military hospital. |
Give us a good citation and I'll stop writing here, free space or no. |
Actually, if you claim Osama was in a US military hospital, it seems you should provide the evidence. How does one go about disproving this? The lack of anything on google? I google on this and I see something about Osama being in a Pakistani military hospital. Pakistan wasn't even much of a US ally at that point. |
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