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mindmetoo
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According to IMDB, Dwar cost $78 million to make. It's grossed about $58 million. Not sure it still has legs in Korea. It's going to need to do about $20 million in NA box office to break even (well it will have to do better to cover post production marketing costs). It will probably do $10 million during its 2 week run in North America. DVD sales etc might take it to the break even point.
Anyway, a Hyundai Pony level attempt at breaking into the American box office. Koreans are looking at it like "it's got 4 tires and an engine like a Mustang. So why won't they buy our car?" |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
It's going to need to do about $20 million in NA box office to break even (well it will have to do better to cover post production marketing costs). It will probably do $10 million during its 2 week run in North America. DVD sales etc might take it to the break even point.
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Another closed-minded gung-ho "Go America!" poster running off rampant misinformation on this board.
Did you come to think of the other markets that this movie will be/would have been shown in. Japan and China come to mind. Yes, Virginia, it's still got legs.
On another note, it did get 4th earning 5.2million in the U.S. box office in it's debut in a typically slow month for movies.
From the Korean Herald:
At least director Shim Hyung-rae got the numbers right. He predicted that his monster flick "D-War" would be released in some 2,000 theaters in the United States, and it secured 2,225 screens when it made its formal debut on the weekend.
The box-office revenue was reportedly $1.5 million, or about 1.4 billion won, on Friday alone, a solid performance that was roughly in line with the lofty expectations following the movie's tremendous success here in Korea.
What Shim failed to predict was the harshness of reviews by American movie critics. It was not a total surprise because Shim's flick had already suffered a slew of biting critical reviews in the Korean press. And bad reviews do not always drag down the box-office score of a film, as long as it wins the hearts of local moviegoers -- somehow.
Andy Webster of the New York Times called "Dragon Wars" -- the English title of "D-War" -- a film that proves that the Japanese monster movie genre is alive. But here's a line that suggests his overall impression: "It is such a breathless, delirious stew, it's impossible not to be entertained, provided -- this is crucial -- you have a sense of humor."
Of course, not everybody has a sense of humor when confronted with this effects-heavy film with such a flimsy plot. Roger Moore, film critic for the Orlando Sentimental, went so far as to declare that it's "the dumbest dragon movie since 'Dragonheart.'"
Hollywood.com also points out the flawed cinematic elements of the film: "A few nifty special effects are no compensation for the nonsensical, nuts-and-bolts 'Dragon Wars, which combines mysticism, monsters and martial arts -- and doesn't make a darned bit of sense with any of it."
The Hollywood Reporter, an influential entertainment publication, also gave this movie a poor mark, saying that helmsman Shim "applies a strictly grade-Z sensibility" to his film, though it does, he acknowledges, boast superior CGI special effects for a movie of its type. The critic sums up the quality problem with "D-War," in a tone reserved for low-grade flicks: "This monster film makes even the remake of 'Godzilla' look good."
The Boston Globe said that moviegoers may not appreciate the acting, directing, costumes, editing, props, music or other aspects of the film, but once the story gets going, and the giant snake and prehistoric dino-birds begin to run through downtown Los Angeles, the movie turns "shockingly watchable." But of course, the underlying fact is that, in the eyes of the Globe's reviewer, until that chase sequence, "there was no evidence that anybody involved with this laughable fantasy knew what he or she was doing."
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/09/17/200709170029.asp |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
It's going to need to do about $20 million in NA box office to break even (well it will have to do better to cover post production marketing costs). It will probably do $10 million during its 2 week run in North America. DVD sales etc might take it to the break even point.
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Another closed-minded gung-ho "Go America!" poster running off rampant misinformation on this board.
Did you come to think of the other markets that this movie will be/would have been shown in. Japan and China come to mind. Yes, Virginia, it's still got legs.
On another note, it did get 4th earning 5.2million in the U.S. box office in it's debut in a typically slow month for movies.
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Typically world revenues = NA revenues. So we'll see what it does in the NA market. But I don't think this backyard piece o' crap is going to make a profit on box office receipts. And the fellow Koreans selling knock off VCDs on street corners aren't going to be helping. |
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Have any of you twats actually watched it?
No?
Just happy to let others tell you what to think?
Fine by me. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| One of my students asked me about this movie out of the blue today. She asked if I'd seen it and I said no. Then I asked her what she thought and she said it was very exciting and that I should see it. I said to her that I wasn't interested and that it wasn't my kind of movie. Is this movie even still showing in Korea?? I wonder why she asked me now and not earlier in the month... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote: |
Have any of you twats actually watched it?
No?
Just happy to let others tell you what to think?
Fine by me. |
I saw it. That's why I'm calling it a backyard piece o' crap. Some nice CG but the live action stuff was ham fisted. |
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Freakstar
Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
It's going to need to do about $20 million in NA box office to break even (well it will have to do better to cover post production marketing costs). It will probably do $10 million during its 2 week run in North America. DVD sales etc might take it to the break even point.
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Another closed-minded gung-ho "Go America!" poster running off rampant misinformation on this board.
Did you come to think of the other markets that this movie will be/would have been shown in. Japan and China come to mind. Yes, Virginia, it's still got legs.
On another note, it did get 4th earning 5.2million in the U.S. box office in it's debut in a typically slow month for movies.
From the Korean Herald:
At least director Shim Hyung-rae got the numbers right. He predicted that his monster flick "D-War" would be released in some 2,000 theaters in the United States, and it secured 2,225 screens when it made its formal debut on the weekend.
The box-office revenue was reportedly $1.5 million, or about 1.4 billion won, on Friday alone, a solid performance that was roughly in line with the lofty expectations following the movie's tremendous success here in Korea.
What Shim failed to predict was the harshness of reviews by American movie critics. It was not a total surprise because Shim's flick had already suffered a slew of biting critical reviews in the Korean press. And bad reviews do not always drag down the box-office score of a film, as long as it wins the hearts of local moviegoers -- somehow.
Andy Webster of the New York Times called "Dragon Wars" -- the English title of "D-War" -- a film that proves that the Japanese monster movie genre is alive. But here's a line that suggests his overall impression: "It is such a breathless, delirious stew, it's impossible not to be entertained, provided -- this is crucial -- you have a sense of humor."
Of course, not everybody has a sense of humor when confronted with this effects-heavy film with such a flimsy plot. Roger Moore, film critic for the Orlando Sentimental, went so far as to declare that it's "the dumbest dragon movie since 'Dragonheart.'"
Hollywood.com also points out the flawed cinematic elements of the film: "A few nifty special effects are no compensation for the nonsensical, nuts-and-bolts 'Dragon Wars, which combines mysticism, monsters and martial arts -- and doesn't make a darned bit of sense with any of it."
The Hollywood Reporter, an influential entertainment publication, also gave this movie a poor mark, saying that helmsman Shim "applies a strictly grade-Z sensibility" to his film, though it does, he acknowledges, boast superior CGI special effects for a movie of its type. The critic sums up the quality problem with "D-War," in a tone reserved for low-grade flicks: "This monster film makes even the remake of 'Godzilla' look good."
The Boston Globe said that moviegoers may not appreciate the acting, directing, costumes, editing, props, music or other aspects of the film, but once the story gets going, and the giant snake and prehistoric dino-birds begin to run through downtown Los Angeles, the movie turns "shockingly watchable." But of course, the underlying fact is that, in the eyes of the Globe's reviewer, until that chase sequence, "there was no evidence that anybody involved with this laughable fantasy knew what he or she was doing."
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/09/17/200709170029.asp |
Wow. "In line with lofty expectations" huh? It made $5.2 million its opening weekend...on 2275 screens (for a movie that doesn't even deserve a theatrical release???) for a dismal per screen average of $2373.
The Host only opened on 71 screens and had a much higher per screen average - $4429 - its opening weekend. Face it, D-War is a dud no matter how the Korean media wants to spin this thing. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
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IMDB review:
One of the worst films I've seen...in a long time, 15 September 2007
1/10
Author: Eye_of_Chaos from United States
First off, I have no idea how this movie made it to the big screen. Its not even the low budget SCI-Fi channel movie, its just awful. Me and my friend who love action movies, Independence day, Jurassic Park, LotR, etc. went to see this movie expecting this movie to me a Transformers with dragons, mindless entertainment. All we got was a mindless hour and a half. The CG was not as bad as I was expecting, but the plot is so awful along with the acting, it made up for it. Its basically a Chinese legged of dragons returning every 500 years...Sounds like a good remake of Rain of Fire? No, The plot tries to be deeper than it should be leaving not only plot holes, but with magic, and a very small actual war between dragons(rather big snakes) it just gets ridiculous. The director attempted to add a bit of humor in the movie which fail. Me and my friend laughed through the whole thing(along with all 5 of the audience), and cant believed we spent money on this. The short trailer on TV makes up for most of the action while crap makes up the rest. I've seen a lot of B movies like Reptilian, The Cave, Spider, and others, but i have to say if you want a non stop laugh for an hour, watch this. |
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Freakstar
Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. "In line with lofty expectations" huh? It made $5.2 million its opening weekend...on 2275 screens (for a movie that doesn't even deserve a theatrical release???) for a dismal per screen average of $2373.
The Host only opened on 71 screens and had a much higher per screen average - $4429 - its opening weekend. Face it, D-War is a dud no matter how the Korean media wants to spin this thing. |
It's actual take came in at $5,041,239 - fifth place overall. |
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