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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Long Term Sickness and Uni Job Reply with quote

I need some advice.

The good news: I just started an excellent position at a good university in a big city. Everything has gone well for the first few weeks.

The bad news: I have become extremely ill - I can't eat at all, and haven't for about 5 days. I am undergoing tests at a university hospital including an endo-------whatever (tube down throat) on Tuesday.

I have had to cancel two days worth of classes already, and the specialist says I will miss most of next week as well until we find out what is going on. He wanted to hospitalize me, but I refused; I'd rather be sick at home. He did give me a medical certificate mandating me to bedrest.

How do I play this situation with the university? I fought hard to get this position, and I don't want to lose it. The extras stress of possbiyl losing a job over an illness is not helping me get well. I have to give them the news on Monday.

Any suggestions/ideas would be helpful.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk with the chair of your department personally. Make sure s/he knows the complete situation.

I had a similar experience back in '94; I originally had measles (at that time I was in my mid-30s), which turned into pneumonia, and then into pleurisy. That last one landed me in the university hospital for several days. At one point, the department chair sent a message to me via the departmental assistant that if I wasn't back in the classroom the following day, I would be docked my pay. I sent a message back relating my physical situation, along with a call from my doctor; the next thing I knew, I had a carton of juice delivered to me from the chair. The problem in my case had been a change in dept. chairs at the time I fell ill; once he knew the true situation, things became better.
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Lost



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a kidney stone for 21 days. I hade 3 proceedures at the hspital to remove it. It hurt like nothing i have ever experienced. SO MUCH PAIN. Was crying and wailing like a baby for the first few days. No way i could teach at my uni. I missed a week. The school understood. I came back the 2nd week and cut a few classes short when the pain came rushing back. I tried to tough it out, but the students were asking me if i was ok. So i had to go home. The staff were very understanding. Volunteer to do extra classes when you return to make up for lost time.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Long Term Sickness and Uni Job Reply with quote

Jeweltone wrote:
How do I play this situation with the university?

Keep admin in the loop re: doctor's diagnoses and such. Make sure they know you're not just pretending.

I was in the hospital last year for 10 days. My uni didn't even dock me pay.
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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am having an endoscopy (ouch) on Tuesday to find out what is wrong. My guess is acid reflux disease - the extreme nausea-after-eating-kind (heartburn I can deal with!). It is especially bad in the morning (my students noticed it). Right now just eating and keeping it down is a challenge. I am very weak and can barely stay upright from lack of food for a week. So yes, it is serious.

I am more concerned about the fact that I am a newbie at this particular job. Does this matter? I have only been there three weeks...
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what happened?

School throw a fit? It could be a benefit to you that Chuseok is next week, so you wouldn't have to miss so many classes.

But I would also be a bit concerned if you're a newbie.
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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, not yet! The chair hasn't called me so far, but I know she has been informed. The secretary has been very sympathetic; then again she has seen me struggle with nausea when I come in every morning...(No, I'm not pregnant!)

I hope the doctor finds out what is going on tomorrow. I hope to be back at work on Thursday.

This has just been rotten luck all around. I left a truly horrible uni in the country (stuck it out for a year for resume building) for a good city job, and now this... Evil or Very Mad
Wish me luck. Sad Confused
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seoulman1



Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Location: Jamsil

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lots of westerners get sick in korea.. remember they are not going to take it as personally as you are (its your life)

Just be as apologetic as possible and show them all the certificates.
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gatorchick82



Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: illness Reply with quote

I got really sick before even coming to Korea. I had to have surgery and couldn't make it until 6 weeks into my contract (I have a uni job). I kept the director informed of my condition and reiterated that I was still looking forward to working there. She let me start 6 weeks late, and we re-negotiated the contract to begin on that date. I thanked her when I arrived for keeping my job for me. She just replied that it was too late to find another teacher at that point. So, all you can do is keep them informed, but don't be suprised if they let you go - it depends on how badly they need you.
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeweltone wrote:
No, not yet! The chair hasn't called me so far, but I know she has been informed. The secretary has been very sympathetic; then again she has seen me struggle with nausea when I come in every morning...(No, I'm not pregnant!)

I hope the doctor finds out what is going on tomorrow. I hope to be back at work on Thursday.

This has just been rotten luck all around. I left a truly horrible uni in the country (stuck it out for a year for resume building) for a good city job, and now this... Evil or Very Mad
Wish me luck. Sad Confused



So what happened? Did the school end up supporting you? Or did they leave you high and dry?
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maximreality



Joined: 24 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulman1 wrote:
lots of westerners get sick in korea.. remember they are not going to take it as personally as you are (its your life)

Just be as apologetic as possible and show them all the certificates.


I'm not sure about how it is in a teaching job, but in general there are no sick-leaves in Korea. First you burn your holidays, and after that they start cutting your salary :/ Considering that yearly holiday is about a week a one more serious flu and its been written off.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maximreality wrote:
I'm not sure about how it is in a teaching job, but in general there are no sick-leaves in Korea.

I don't sign a contract without them. It's not like I use them any way--except for the 10-day hospital stay last Christmas I haven't used a sick day in almost 8 years--but it's nice to know you CAN use them if you need them.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A colleague needed bypass surgery a few years back, a missed about a month and a half of semester, right at then end, just in time for finals. The teachers in the English department, foreigners and Koreans alike, had a meeting and figured out ways to fill the gaps. No problem. My wife took an entire semester off for maternity leave, and was still paid. I missed about a week once with a fractured toe. Again, no problems.

That's the wonderful thing about working at a uni ... being sick, even long term, is not the end of the world, unlike hagwon where you have to be bleeding out your eyes to take a sickie for the afternoon.
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andrew



Joined: 30 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mercury



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew wrote:
In public schools, it depends on where you're at. I'm leaving to go back to America in early December as my contract in a rural county in Gangwon-do wasn't renewed. I was told the major reason for it was that I got off on the wrong foot when I started. I taught one month of school before the winter break, and then was only used for one week of winter camp. Then, just a week after school started again in March, I got a bad case of pinkeye and was ordered by the doctor not to teach until the infection subsided as it was highly contagious. It took two full weeks until I could go back and I used 12 of my 15 paid sick days, thanks to their interpretation of the contract that included the weekend in between. My co-teacher, an older Korean man, actually saw my eye in this condition and spoke with the doctor, but made a lot of snarky comments about my taking a "vacation" after being paid for two months "doing nothing" during winter break. Frankly, I despised him after that for being so rude and not understanding. He even said "We Koreans do not get these things because we are healthy people" - yeah, right!

Local, ignorant attitudes such as this make me wonder why anyone would want to teach in Korea at all.





You should have still gone to school, but with an eye patch, and metamorphorized into a pirate. You could have bought a pet parrot, and the parrot could have taught your classes while it sat on your shoulder(while you sat and read the paper) Every so often you could have taken a swig of rum, and started to braid the long beard that you were growing, and had fun with the merry 'wenches' in the office complex. and said ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG, everytime the asshole director came around to see what you were doing.


actually, with two weeks paid vacation you should have just disappered in bangkok, the merry wenches there would not care about the eye patch, as long as you gave them plenty of your silver and gold.
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