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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: France: Iran Prepare for War |
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France: Prepare for war over Iran
September 17, 2007 -- Updated 1621 GMT
PARIS, France (AP) -- France's foreign minister warned Sunday that the world should prepare for war if Iran obtains nuclear weapons and said European leaders were considering their own economic sanctions against the Islamic country.
Negotiations and two sets of U.N. Security Council sanctions have failed to persuade Iran to stop its uranium enrichment program, a process that can produce fuel for nuclear power plants as well as material used in atomic weapons.
Iran insists its atomic activities are aimed only at producing energy, but the U.S., its European allies and other world powers suspect Iranian authorities of seeking nuclear weapons.
Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, speaking on RTL radio, called for "more effective sanctions" against Iran if it continues to resist the demands to suspend uranium enrichment.
"We will not accept that such a bomb is made. We must prepare ourselves for the worst," he said, specifying that could mean a war. He did not elaborate on what kind of preparations that would entail.
"We have decided, while negotiations are under way ... to prepare for eventual sanctions outside the United Nations, which would be European sanctions," he said.
Kouchner was not specific about what penalties Europe might impose, other than to say they could be "economic sanctions regarding financial movements."
"Our German friends proposed this. We discussed it a few days ago," he said.
Sarkozy reportedly floated the possibility of European sanctions against Iran this summer. In a major foreign policy speech last month, he mentioned the possibility of an attack on Iran, which he said would be as "catastrophic" as Tehran getting a nuclear bomb.
In Washington, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the Bush administration is committed, for now, to using diplomatic and economic means to counter the potential nuclear threat from Iran.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/17/france.iran.ap/index.html |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Iran scorns French warning of war
Last Updated: Monday, 17 September 2007, 22:03 GMT
A warning by France's foreign minister that the world should prepare for war over Iran's nuclear programme has drawn an angry response from Iran.
Iran's foreign ministry said the remark had damaged the credibility of France, while the official Iranian news agency accused Paris of aping Washington.
On Sunday France's Bernard Kouchner said: "We have to prepare for the worst, and the worst is war."
Meanwhile, the top UN nuclear official said force should be a last resort.
At a conference of the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), in Austria, Mohamed ElBaradei said he saw no clear and present danger, and that talk of force was counter-productive.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6998602.stm |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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While at the same time
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Abizaid: World could abide nuclear Iran |
WASHINGTON - Every effort should be made to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, but failing that, the world could live with a nuclear-armed regime in Tehran, a recently retired commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East said Monday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070917/ap_on_go_ot/abizaid_iran
It doesn't look like the French government and the American military are on the same page. There has been a remarkable series of public announcements by retired generals stating positions that are at odds with the current administration. This is only the most recent. |
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Sleepy in Seoul

Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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PARIS, France (AP) -- France's foreign minister warned Sunday that the world should prepare for war if Iran obtains nuclear weapons |
Who is Sunday? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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If theres war with iran, I hope they learn their mistakes from Iraq. Mainly, forget nationbuilding. The objective in Iran should be simple: TOTAL destruction. You can rebuild it later, from scratch. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
If theres war with iran, I hope they learn their mistakes from Iraq. Mainly, forget nationbuilding. The objective in Iran should be simple: TOTAL destruction. You can rebuild it later, from scratch. |
Advocating mass murder, eh? How courageous & wise.
How is this not hate speech? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
jinju wrote: |
If theres war with iran, I hope they learn their mistakes from Iraq. Mainly, forget nationbuilding. The objective in Iran should be simple: TOTAL destruction. You can rebuild it later, from scratch. |
Advocating mass murder, eh? How courageous & wise.
How is this not hate speech? |
Why do you sympathize with a terrorist state? What are you hiding? Perhaps I should report you to the American embassy, let them investigate you and your pro-terrorism agenda. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
Advocating mass murder, eh? How courageous & wise.
How is this not hate speech? |
Why do you sympathize with a terrorist state? What are you hiding? Perhaps I should report you to the American embassy, let them investigate you and your pro-terrorism agenda.[/quote]
Yep it is hate speech, but since Jinju is a troll let him go, its what he does. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
There has been a remarkable series of public announcements by retired generals stating positions that are at odds with the current administration. This is only the most recent. |
The key word here is "retired". They can say what they like as it has no bearing or effect on policy. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
jinju wrote: |
If theres war with iran, I hope they learn their mistakes from Iraq. Mainly, forget nationbuilding. The objective in Iran should be simple: TOTAL destruction. You can rebuild it later, from scratch. |
Advocating mass murder, eh? How courageous & wise.
How is this not hate speech? |
People should be held responsible for their governments.
War is nasty. Trying to fight a friendly war gets you nowhere.
If you want hate speech, listen to Arbinawacko. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
igotthisguitar wrote: |
jinju wrote: |
If theres war with iran, I hope they learn their mistakes from Iraq. Mainly, forget nationbuilding. The objective in Iran should be simple: TOTAL destruction. You can rebuild it later, from scratch. |
Advocating mass murder, eh? How courageous & wise.
How is this not hate speech? |
People should be held responsible for their governments.
War is nasty. Trying to fight a friendly war gets you nowhere.
If you want hate speech, listen to Arbinawacko. |
Iranians have had decades to launch a revolution and overthrow the psycho mullahs. They also voted in the nazi whacko president. They are as responsible as anyone for the direction the country has gone in. Iran should be taken out. Eliminated if need be. The world would be a better place without Iran or Persia. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070917/ap_on_go_ot/abizaid_iran |
He is probably correct but, that is very liberal thinking. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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The key word here is "retired". They can say what they like as it has no bearing or effect on policy.
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That is not exactly true. They can speak without the restraint of obeying orders and can publically reflect the thinking in high military circles. It is quite unusual for any of them to speak in contradiction of policy. The fact that so many have in recent months speaks volumes about how the military thinks of the present administration's policies.
By going public, he challenges anyone who is encouraging a strike against Iran, and gives ammunition to critics, including Congressional leaders and the media. Whose view carries more weight, a bureaucrat's or a general's? |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I like "New France". The French finally grew a set of balls. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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As they should.
France needs to step out and make some statements.
They're an important country, as is Germany, and they need to rattle some good one-liners from time-to-time.
Hearing just the USA and Britain (Blair) do it got really old. People stopped listening, anyway. |
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