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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: Germany Warns Citizens To Avoid Using Wi-Fi |
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Germany Warns Citizens To Avoid Using Wi-Fi
Environment Ministry's verdict on the health risks from wireless technology puts the British government to shame.
By Geoffrey Lean
Published: 09 September 2007
People should avoid using Wi-Fi wherever possible because of the risks it may pose to health, the German government has said.
Its surprise ruling � the most damning made by any government on the fast-growing technology � will shake the industry and British ministers, and vindicates the questions that The Independent on Sunday has been raising over the past four months.
And Germany's official radiation protection body also advises its citizens to use landlines instead of mobile phones, and warns of "electrosmog" from a wide range of other everyday products, from baby monitors to electric blankets.
The German government's ruling � which contrasts sharply with the unquestioning promotion of the technology by British officials � was made in response to a series of questions by Green members of the Bundestag, Germany's parliament.
The Environment Ministry recommended that people should keep their exposure to radiation from Wi-Fi "as low as possible" by choosing "conventional wired connections". It added that it is "actively informing people about possibilities for reducing personal exposure".
Its actions will provide vital support for Sir William Stewart, Britain's official health protection watchdog, who has produced two reports calling for caution in using mobile phones and who has also called for a review of the use of Wi-Fi in schools. His warnings have so far been ignored by ministers and even played down by the Health Protection Agency, which he chairs.
By contrast the agency's German equivalent � the Federal Office for Radiation Protection � is leading the calls for caution.
Florian Emrich, for the office, says Wi-Fi should be avoided "because people receive exposures from many sources and because it is a new technology and all the research into its health effects has not yet been carried out".
http://environment.independent.co.uk/lifestyle/article2944417.ece |
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dogshed

Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Some of the German ideas about health are as hokey as fan death. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Dude, you've posted this in 2 forums. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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It's amusing, when you consider that in Germany there are roads with no speed limit. Hardly legislative concern for safety there. And it made me chuckle when my brother's German girlfriend would request that I smuggle in 'Lemsip' when I travelled from the UK, because things like Lemsip and Red Bull were outlawed in Deutchland. I remember visiting Austria with some Germans and they went crazy buying Red Bull, haha. They couldn't wait to try this new illicit substance.
Having said that, I do secretly wish my government gave more of a stuff about health and safety. Mad Cow's desease might never have occurred if we'd been more like the Germans.
And seeing as they're taking this so seriously, I might give more thought to avoiding exposure, especially with regard to my 2 lovely little lads. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
And seeing as they're taking this so seriously, I might give more thought to avoiding exposure, especially with regard to my 2 lovely little lads. |
There is no evidence suggesting Wi-Fi is dangerous.
Mobile phones have been found to be safe, btw.
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Its surprise ruling � the most damning made by any government on the fast-growing technology � will shake the industry and British ministers, and vindicates the questions that The Independent on Sunday has been raising over the past four months. |
Ah, The Independent has been raising questions? I would call it encouraging hysteria. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Kuros wrote: |
There is no evidence suggesting Wi-Fi is dangerous.
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From my understanding, it's inconclusive, which means it's not been proved safe. |
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Masta_Don

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
And it made me chuckle when my brother's German girlfriend would request that I smuggle in 'Lemsip' when I travelled from the UK, because things like Lemsip and Red Bull were outlawed in Deutchland. I remember visiting Austria with some Germans and they went crazy buying Red Bull, haha. They couldn't wait to try this new illicit substance.
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Maybe it's becuz Red Bull originated in Germany and now they miss it. I remember it being all the rage back in 1993 or so and all us kids heard crazy rumors about what ailments it could cure. Epilepsy, cancer, hemorrhoids, you name it. Too bad we didn't get their taste for fig liquor and ugly transvestites instead. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
Kuros wrote: |
There is no evidence suggesting Wi-Fi is dangerous.
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From my understanding, it's inconclusive, which means it's not been proved safe. |
Yeah, exactly. There's no clear evidence suggesting Wi-Fi is dangerous.
Although we do have evidence that conventional radio transmissions (except perhaps right near a large transmitting aentenna) and cell phone emissions are completely harmless for humans.
Germany: The pinnacle of the nanny-state ideal? |
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atomic42

Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Location: Gimhae
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Masta_Don wrote: |
Maybe it's becuz Red Bull originated in Germany and now they miss it. |
Wik yourself before you d1ck yourself:
Red Bull is the brand name of an energy drink that originated in Thailand and, in a version adapted to Austrian tastes, is now popular throughout the world. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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The wheel is responsible for deaths worldwide! |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
Kuros wrote: |
There is no evidence suggesting Wi-Fi is dangerous.
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From my understanding, it's inconclusive, which means it's not been proved safe. |
BINGO!
"Oh, c'mon ... have faith people. Just trust what you're being told.
It's cool, it's easy, it's fun, it's cheap!!"
push push
sell sell
go go
package, spin
sleep
cell phones etc. give me constant headaches  |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
It's amusing, when you consider that in Germany there are roads with no speed limit. Hardly legislative concern for safety there. And it made me chuckle when my brother's German girlfriend would request that I smuggle in 'Lemsip' when I travelled from the UK, because things like Lemsip and Red Bull were outlawed in Deutchland. I remember visiting Austria with some Germans and they went crazy buying Red Bull, haha. They couldn't wait to try this new illicit substance.
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If everyone drives 150km on the highway, there is no real problem, given that of course they had proper training. Don't forget that the "Autobahns" were build for tanks, not for cars .
Red Bull has very high concentrates of caffeine and is considered a drug. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Where is the proof that Wi-fi is damgerous?
really this is as ridiculous as putting health warnings on fans. people are always afraid of the new. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: |
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JMO wrote: |
Where is the proof that Wi-fi is damgerous?
really this is as ridiculous as putting health warnings on fans. people are always afraid of the new. |
Just because you can't see it, taste it, smell it, touch it etc. doesn't mean it's not bad for you
BRAVE NEW WORLD. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
JMO wrote: |
Where is the proof that Wi-fi is damgerous?
really this is as ridiculous as putting health warnings on fans. people are always afraid of the new. |
Just because you can't see it, taste it, smell it, touch it etc. doesn't mean it's not bad for you
BRAVE NEW WORLD. |
and it doesn't mean they are dangerous also. Where is the evidence? Has anyone got sick? Is there a theory on how it harms people? Is there similar technology on which there has been research done? Evidence please? |
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