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[The Bobster]

One more example of extremists with extreme views wanting to make other people behave the same way they do - because THEY know what is best for everyone, you see, and if you don't see, that's just too bad because if they have their way, they will take away your choice to be different.

Got a lotta friends who are vegetarians, and every one of them are cool because not a one of them have criticized me for making other decisions about what to order from the kitchen. When we have dinner together, we just make adjustments, that's all.

The extremists, though, they want to make EVERYONE be JUST like them. I guess that boils my turnip a bit, because those of us on the left side of the aisle are are SUPPOSED to embrace diversity. People who are different are interesting, way I figure. Not according to the ones on the far side, apparently. The "true believers" insist that the world must conform to what they want, in every particular way.

PETA's dogma is all bark and no bite

Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians

[Big_Bird]

Anyone who is really serious about the environment would seriously consider giving up meat. It is one of the greatest contributions you can personally make in that regard. Do some research, Bobster, and you will find that modern farming puts an enormous environmental strain on the planet.

It does seem pretty hypocritical for an environmentalist to continue eating meat. Some of my acquaintances who graduated from environmental science became vegans when they realised what impact meat eating had on the planet.

It's one thing to politely not shove your views down another diners' throat. I have never scolded anyone for not being a vegetarian. It's another thing for an activist to publically give their perspective. That seems quite legitimate to me. Why would you complain about it? They haven't brought in any law to force you into veganism.

[Alyallen]

Hey Bobster,

They are extremists and on the far side for a reason. Personally, I'd rather deal with someone who was a environmentalist who eats meat as oppose to a vegetarian or vegan who isn't an environmentalist. I don't think this who deal should be an all or nothing proposition. When people put people in that sort of postition everyone loses....

As far as being an vegan or vegetarian and being an environmentalist, I went to an environmental liberal arts college and from what I saw, the world would be a better place if everyone did their part as oppose to bickering over who isn't giving enough. If someone's an environmentalist, let's be happy that they are doing that and not penalize that person for choosing to eat meat.

There are a number of different factors that impact the environment and everyone's environmental impact is different, so why dumb it down to "do this or your contributions aren't worth shit?"

In any event, PETA doesn't run my life and their opinions of my choices aren't worth shit, so I'll just go about my business doing what I can with zero guilt from anyone....


And yes, there is really such a thing as an environmental liberal arts college...check it out www.greenmtn.edu

[The Bobster]

[Big_Bird]

[dutchy pink]

Basically any groups who choose to support chickens or animals over people are a bunch of hypocrites imho. Is PETA suggesting the whole world become vegetarians? Developing countries too? Poeple who struggle for nutrition should avoid animal products to profess their ecocentric solidarity with fowl?
Now, I'm not a vegetarian, nor an environmentalist, although I had been for years. There are a lot of humans on the planet who are not treated as people, i'll hold off on calling chickens people until those humans are people first.

If you are from the Vermont chapter of PETA and all you see are SUV driving environmentalists, than sure, I agree. If you are a suburbanite environmentalist, you should be a vegetarian. There is a Whole Foods nearby. What else are you doing?

[The Bobster]

[The Bobster]

[dogshed]

Modern meat production is inefficient when compared to other methods of making protein. However, I wonder about less intensive meat production. Pigs are often used to recycle scrap, and cattle will eat plants that humans can't consume and require very little water and fuel input.

NPR just had a good story on gasses being released by melting permafrost. I'm thinking it may be too late to roll back climate change.

[Young FRANKenstein]

[mindmetoo]

PETA says you're also not an animal lover if have a pet.

[Ya-ta Boy]

I miss RED DOG!!! Where is she?

[Bramble]

[IlIlNine]

You know - it's like Bobster and Big Bird are on opposite ends of the ring, but the reality lies in the middle.

Here's the generally accepted statistic - since there seems to be a lack of actual facts in this thread...

[Alyallen]