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Disgraced cloning scientist flees to Thailand
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Disgraced cloning scientist flees to Thailand Reply with quote

Disgraced South Korean cloning scientist Hwang Woo-Suk has fled to Thailand to escape controversy and continue his research, associates said Tuesday.
Hwang and some 10 other researchers have been in Thailand for two months, focusing on research into the cloning of pet animals and the production of stemcells that could be used for cell treatment, they said.

The South Korean government banned Hwang from research using human eggs after his claims that he created the first human stem cells through cloning were ruled to be bogus last year.

Hwang was stripped of all government honours and funds, including his title of "Supreme Scientist," after Seoul National University concluded that his claims -- first made public in a 2004 science journal -- were fake.

"Dr. Hwang and his team moved into Thailand to continue with their study free from ethical controversy over their research here," said Park Se-Pill, also a cloning scientist, told AFP.

Hwang's former lawyer, Lee Geon-Haeng, confirmed Hwang and his team had been in Thailand for the past two months.

Aside from the cloning of pets, Hwang's team has also been working on "trans-species" cloning in which, for example, human DNA are inserted into eggs of a cow to produce hybrid embryos.

From this embryos, stemcells could be produced for cell treatment to cure chronic and difficult diseases such as Alzheimer's and diabetes.

South Korea's law on bioethics prohibits the production of hybrid embryos amid continuing controversy over whether research into hybrid embryos should be permitted as well.

Late last year, Hwang and his team made a quiet comeback to research and opened a new laboratory outside Seoul.

Hwang remains on trial for embezzlement and fake research but has insisted in court that he could still prove he created the first cloned human stem cells.

He claimed to have paved the way for treatment of incurable diseases by creating stem cells through cloning which would not be rejected when inserted into a patient's body.

But his successes could not be repeated by others, a key test for scientific method.

His research was called into question after local media and other scientists raised the possibility that the data and photos of stem cells used for his scientific papers were fabricated.

Park said Hwang's team had "unrivalled" technologies in cloning and the country "must not allow Hwang's technology to go down the drain."

Hwang was indicted in May last year for fraud, embezzlement, ethical breaches and other charges, but has retained a core following of supporters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/healthskoreastemcell_070918162804
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aside from the cloning of pets, Hwang's team has also been working on "trans-species" cloning in which, for example, human DNA are inserted into eggs of a cow to produce hybrid embryos.


WTF?? Shall we start calling this guy Dr. Frankenstein? The stem cell stuff I understand but this is ridiculous.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might have to pack off to Lao or cams after 3 months if they don't have proper visa's though... Very Happy
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
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Aside from the cloning of pets, Hwang's team has also been working on "trans-species" cloning in which, for example, human DNA are inserted into eggs of a cow to produce hybrid embryos.


WTF?? Shall we start calling this guy Dr. Frankenstein? The stem cell stuff I understand but this is ridiculous.


Whatever man. That's science. F*cking progress man. Stop letting "morals" and "ethics" hold you down. We're making satyrs and unicorns.
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Henry VII



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with djsmnc.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



One can only dream.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now why on Earth, of all the places in the world he could go, would a Korean man decide to go to Thailand above all others?

Umm.... let me think........
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably because he could get cheap donors of eggs (or whatever he uses...) but mainly because he has retained strong support from the Buddhist community as a whole in Korea, and Buddhism is much more prominent in Thailand...
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you could get much cheaper eggs than he was getting. Remember, they found that he was getting donor eggs from some of his staff. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the Korean female staff members were put under some tremendous pressure to donate! Anyone who has lived in this society long enough could understand exactly how that might play out.

Disturbing.
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indiercj



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Now why on Earth, of all the places in the world he could go, would a Korean man decide to go to Thailand above all others?

Umm.... let me think........


Come on. It's better than Korea!

Think about all the women, the beach, women, relaxed and friendly people who can care less what he is "cloning." Did I say women?
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Disgraced cloning scientist flees to Thailand Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
Disgraced South Korean cloning scientist Hwang Woo-Suk has fled to Thailand to escape controversy and continue his research, associates said Tuesday.

And who in the scientific community is ever going to believe a word this guy says again?
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hubba bubba



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey man, first time he starts walking down Kho San Road with a cow that has a human head, people will start listening.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubba bubba wrote:
Hey man, first time he starts walking down Kho San Road with a cow that has a human head, people will start listening.


Maybe he's going to clone the perfect ladyboy?
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, preferably one that can give itself a humjob so they leave the rest of us alone.
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riley



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised that I'm the first one to say it,
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Hwang's team has also been working on "trans-species" cloning


Island of Dr. Moreau anybody?
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