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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
| Let me pose a DIRECT question to you keane: Do you believe that moveon.org was entirely fair in its characterization of Petraeus and how they reported his recent activities? If so, why? |
What an asinine issue. My god. You C/N-Cers go around defending crap like the Kerry swiftboating, the Clinton impeachment (perhaps the single grossest abuse of legislative power in our history until the Rubber Stamp Republicans really got going with Iraq and the war on civil freedoms), the constant portrayal of progressives as cowards, and you complain about THAT? That was about as mild a rebuke as one could expect given he cooked the books on real people DYING to sell a war.
Hypocrites. Cry me a river, ya bunch of babies. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I also began college (at UMass-Amherst) in 1967 - to complete the trifecta...
I associated pretty closely with anti-war protesters - especially during the '72 political conventions at Miami Beach, and at Nixon's inauguration the following January in D.C. (I vaguely recall helping design the Yippie-Zippie "Rat float"...)
In retrospect, I'm sure that there must have been some government infiltration of the various major anti-war groups but there was definitely a small percentage of hardcore Communist/anarchist types whose goal was to radicalize the large mass of peaceful protesters by deliberating provoking the police (by rock-throwing, etc...) to attack the crowd. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| And now your question, McGarrett: what think you of the Freedom'sWatch ads? |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
| Let me pose a DIRECT question to you keane: Do you believe that moveon.org was entirely fair in its characterization of Petraeus and how they reported his recent activities? If so, why? |
What an asinine issue. My god. You C/N-Cers go around defending crap like the Kerry swiftboating, the Clinton impeachment (perhaps the single grossest abuse of legislative power in our history until the Rubber Stamp Republicans really got going with Iraq and the war on civil freedoms), the constant portrayal of progressives as cowards, and you complain about THAT? That was about as mild a rebuke as one could expect given he cooked the books on real people DYING to sell a war.
Hypocrites. Cry me a river, ya bunch of babies. |
What a textbook example of leftist thinking.
Attacking an advertisement which portrays a real General in a real war in real time.., accusing him of betraying our country..
is somehow equivalent to...
the documenting of many soldiers opinions (INFORMED BY THEIR OWN REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES) of a man who wishes to become President...(swiftboat)
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uncovering which employee's orifice's a President placed his cigar....(Clinton)
Moral Equivalancy is getting larger and larger....
and even more pathetic. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
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| For someone who claims not to be EFL...you sure are sounding an awful lot like him. Good show though you managed to put up a front of seeming civility for all of two months. |
Since you've never even tried a single month, why are you throwing stones, friend? I am tied of the C/N-C hypocrisy.
Irrelevant. I wasn't the one banned for lack of said civility.
It bores me. It disgusts me.
Then stop personally attacking other posters. Either that or stop complaining when they respond in kind. Seriously friend, when you call other posters shills and worse, what do you expect? You might want to take a leaf from the C/N-C book on this one issue. I've disagreed with others whom you've labled as such (Gopher and Mosely) YET it's always remained civil. In each case neither of us escalated into insults and mud-slinging.
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| As regards Petraeus and Fallon, there is bad blood between the two. |
WHY? Because of the issues discussed. You can't follow the thread without being led by the hand?
Those comments were made well before Petraeus testified. So the testimony did not cause the bad blood. It was a "personal distate" for Petraeus style of operating and their differences on Iraq policy...that is directly from the article
The "bad blood" did not cause the comments, the "bad blood" IS what Fallon was talking about. They disagreed about whether Petraeus should be a sycopantic career chaser or a general. Fallon chose sycophant. That IS the cause of the bad blood.
Yes I agree that Fallon choose to be a sycophant (for the Left). Unforunate, but that's the way it goes
If you don't understand this, why are you posting?
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| OF COURSE Fallon is going to give him a bad rap. No surprise there, just as there would be no surprise that only the Left takes Fallon seriously on this issue. |
You absorb the talking points just fine, bushie. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| sundubuman wrote: |
| What a textbook example of leftist thinking. |
Thank you.
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| Attacking an advertisement which portrays a real General in a real war in real time.., accusing him of betraying our country.. |
He did.
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| the documenting of many soldiers opinions (INFORMED BY THEIR OWN REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES) of a man who wishes to become President...(swiftboat) |
And leaving out/ignoring/distorting the stories from the same group of men that praised Kerry. This is political horse crap, and you know it. And what happened in Vietnam had feck all to do with what is happening these days. Why didn't the same people bash Bush and EVERY OTHER NEOCON IN THE BUSH ADMIN for their cowardice in the face of war? Hmmmm?????
It was far beyond what this stinking shell of a general did. He lied about the numbers to sell more immoral and illegal death and destruction. It is a crime against the people. It is treason.
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Moral Equivalancy is getting larger and larger....
and even more pathetic. |
Yes, it is. So stop. This general lied intentionally. He is a traitor to his nation. And a coward for not doing what is right in this war. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| The_Conservative wrote: |
| For someone who claims not to be EFL...you sure are sounding an awful lot like him. Good show though you managed to put up a front of seeming civility for all of two months. |
Since you've never even tried a single month, why are you throwing stones, friend? I am tied of the C/N-C hypocrisy.
Irrelevant. I wasn't the one banned for lack of said civility. |
Neither was I. But you should be. There should be a zero-tolerance policy to get all the neo-cons off the board, or make them behave.
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It bores me. It disgusts me.
[i] Then stop personally attacking other posters. |
Said the pot. Ridiculous.
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Either that or stop complaining when they respond in kind. Seriously friend, when you call other posters shills and worse, what do you expect? |
You care to go look at all the threads I've started and/or participated in and see who threw the shit first, in virtually every case? You know who it is. You have mirrors, I'm sure.
Your posts are almost always personal and pointless. Say something of use, or be quiet. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| For someone who claims not to be EFL...you sure are sounding an awful lot like him. Good show though you managed to put up a front of seeming civility for all of two months. The next time you are perma-banned and return yet again, let's see if we can make it through three months of civility and the next time after that four and so on...hmm? |
That is the first thing YOU had to say on this thread.
Go soak your head.
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
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| For someone who claims not to be EFL...you sure are sounding an awful lot like him. Good show though you managed to put up a front of seeming civility for all of two months. The next time you are perma-banned and return yet again, let's see if we can make it through three months of civility and the next time after that four and so on...hmm? |
That is the first thing YOU had to say on this thread.
Go soak your head.
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What's that got to do with it? You don't see ME whining about lack of civility. YOU were the one complaining about it and I gave you some advice.
"Go soak your head"?
Are you ten years old? Seriously?
I noticed that you didn't bother to address the rest of the points I made...then again they showed that you were wrong so that's no surprise. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
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You care to go look at all the threads I've started and/or participated in and see who threw the *beep* first, in virtually every case? . |
That would be you. Someone says something...and you immediately take it as a personal insult. For example:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1336814&highlight=#1336814
That's from the third page
But if we look at the first page, clark simply asked you if you had forgotten to post the link and then provided one.
You took it as a personal jab (which whenever someone questions you, you always do.) and responded with a WAY over the top response.
First of all it is expected on these forums to post links when you make controversial claims. You know this...you've been here long enough and been asked enough times to do so.
Get rid of the persecution complex. Just answer questions simply and nicely...and just maybe people won't feel tempted to flame you back |
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postfundie
Joined: 28 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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You took it as a personal jab (which whenever someone questions you, you always do.) and responded with a WAY over the top response.
First of all it is expected on these forums to post links when you make controversial claims. You know this...you've been here long enough and been asked enough times to do so.
Get rid of the persecution complex. Just answer questions simply and nicely...and just maybe people won't feel tempted to flame you back
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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You took it as a personal jab (which whenever someone questions you, you always do.) and responded with a WAY over the top response.
First of all it is expected on these forums to post links when you make controversial claims. You know this...you've been here long enough and been asked enough times to do so.
Get rid of the persecution complex. Just answer questions simply and nicely...and just maybe people won't feel tempted to flame you back
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Whoever the quote is from, and I came here only to post as your thoughts, the lot of you, are pointless so I haven't read any posts in a couple days... and won't.... grow up. None of you have the strength of character to criticize your own when wrong. None of you have the balls to say what is true: the source was given. Clicking on yahoo, then the link, is supposed to be some sort of injustice to your fragile, bizarrely twisted egos.
It was clearly stated pages back I didn't know HOW to post the link, so gave the source. The sad sack responding couldn't be bothered with reality, he had to taunt, as ever.
Since these points have been made already more than once, I don't expect your feeble intellects to manage it this time.
You are juvenile. You have spent PAGES whining about a link the OP GAVE YOU in the only way the OP KNEW HOW at the time.
You are a collective joke. |
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keane
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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I also began college (at UMass-Amherst) in 1967 - to complete the trifecta...
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WHO am I over-looking? I can't find anyone else who started in '67 except you and me.
I also notice that Stevie hasn't been back.  |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| The democratically elected government of Iraq is not demanding that foreign troops leave. In fact, the foreign troops are in Iraq at the request of this government. If President Jalal TALABANI suddenly demanded their removal, I'd support that decision. But he's not doing that. |
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