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| Who Would You Vote For As President? |
| Hilldog |
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28% |
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| Ron Paul |
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48% |
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| Neither |
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23% |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Who's Hilldog? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Let your voice be heard... |
Heard by whom? This is Dave's ESL Cafe. Not the best venue to set the world on fire.
And who do you think might read this poll between Ron Paul and "Hilldog?" |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Who's Hilldog? |
I think it's "Hilldawg" y'all. Know wa'm sayin'? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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I voted Hillary.
Ron Paul has some merits, but at the end of the day, he's crazy.
Seriously, he thinks the FAA should be privately run, and that Lincoln was morally wrong to violate States' Rights in the Civil War. I mean, seriously, I like States' Rights too but why would you oppose the 14th Amendment?
That being said, Hillary has the strongest laissez-faire policies of the Democrats besides Bill Richardson. All the Republican candidates are supply-siders right now, so even Greenspan won't give them the time of day. Hillary is the best choice for our nation's economy. But if I were to vote in the GOP primary I'd vote for Ron Paul. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| I mean, seriously, I like States' Rights too but why would you oppose the 14th Amendment? |
jus soli.
For the record, I'm not opposed to the 14th Amendment. But that's probably one of the reasons why other people are. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| I mean, seriously, I like States' Rights too but why would you oppose the 14th Amendment? |
jus soli.
For the record, I'm not opposed to the 14th Amendment. But that's probably one of the reasons why other people are. |
I looked up jus soli. I still don't understand. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| I mean, seriously, I like States' Rights too but why would you oppose the 14th Amendment? |
jus soli.
For the record, I'm not opposed to the 14th Amendment. But that's probably one of the reasons why other people are. |
I looked up jus soli. I still don't understand. |
I thought you were involved in this discussion before?
What part don't you understand? Jus soli or the 14th Amendment's role?
Jus soli is the granting of American citizenship to everyone born in America. See also, anchor babies.
It is most often defended by citing the 14th Amendment.
To get rid of anchor babies, one will most likely need to get rid of the 14th Amendment. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| I mean, seriously, I like States' Rights too but why would you oppose the 14th Amendment? |
jus soli.
For the record, I'm not opposed to the 14th Amendment. But that's probably one of the reasons why other people are. |
I looked up jus soli. I still don't understand. |
I thought you were involved in this discussion before?
What part don't you understand? Jus soli or the 14th Amendment's role?
Jus soli is the granting of American citizenship to everyone born in America. See also, anchor babies.
It is most often defended by citing the 14th Amendment.
To get rid of anchor babies, one will most likely need to get rid of the 14th Amendment. |
Oh I see. I was thinking more along the lines of the Equal Protection Clause.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the priviliges or immunities of citizens of the US; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
But at least in my researches I got to learn about the Wong Kim Ark case. A profitable misunderstanding. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Who's Hilldog? |
I think it's "Hilldawg" y'all. Know wa'm sayin'?  |
 There ya go! |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| ...But if I were to vote in the GOP primary I'd vote for Ron Paul. |
Kuros: your stock just went down, dude.
I agree that no Republican presently looks attractive and is willing to win my vote. But that especially includes Ron Paul. If the Republican Party held its primary today, I would likely vote "none of the above" or simply abstain.
I would rather have no president than see Ron Paul sitting in the Oval Office. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmm...she gives a better hummer? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| ...But if I were to vote in the GOP primary I'd vote for Ron Paul. |
Kuros: your stock just went down, dude.
I agree that no Republican presently looks attractive and is willing to win my vote. But that especially includes Ron Paul. If the Republican Party held its primary today, I would likely vote "none of the above" or simply abstain.
I would rather have no president than see Ron Paul sitting in the Oval Office. |
Ron Paul wouldn't have a prayer against a Democrat. |
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igotthisguitar
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igotthisguitar
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September 21, 2007
Clinton: I am not a lesbian
WASHINGTON (CNN) � Sen. Hillary Clinton's sexuality is not the most pressing issue on the presidential campaign trail, but it is likely to get a fair amount of attention on a lazy Friday in the nation�s capital.
The Advocate asked Clinton about "past" rumors that she is gay.
The New York Democrat tells �The Advocate� that she is not a lesbian, according to a story in Friday�s edition of The New York Daily News.
"It's not true, but it is something that I have no control over," Clinton tells the magazine in a story set for publication next week.
�People will say what they want to say," she added. |
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