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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| kentucker4 wrote: |
| xingyiman wrote: |
| Zutronius wrote: |
| The dating front doesn't sound too promising in Korea. I hope it won't be a lonely trip. |
The reality is that it is not going to be much easier than it is for you back in America if you figure in the intangible costs of learning Korean and getting accustomed to the culture. Like anywhere else the key to the hearts of the people is through the Language. If you never learn Korean then you'll be relegated to a handfull that actually speak fluent English and those gals aren't stupid - they know what they're worth. If you want an easy in, come to Thailand. |
Can you save up money teaching English in Thailand as well? |
You can't save up anything like you can in Korea. But then again, most people make their money in Korea and then spend it elsewhere. In Thailand you can put back enough to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle here, but it's way shy of being enough to make a "clean break" if you decide to head back to the West. The quaility of life is what draws people here not the money. |
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King Baeksu
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| xingyiman wrote: |
| If you would take the time to reread my post we are basically saying the same thing. |
Wow, I have an honors degree in English Literature and Rhetoric but I guess I should ask for a refund because I have no idea what you're talking about!
| xingyiman wrote: |
| I seemingly remember stating that it was quite possible to get a Korean GF, providing you are patient and willing to hurdle a few failures on the road to "penetration". What I am taking issue with King, is the still too popular notion that a guy can step off the plane and be shagging all too willing gals within hours. You and I both know the only way that'll happen is if its a direct cash transaction. |
Dude, I have met plenty of guys who have literally stepped off the plane here and begun a shaggin' left and right with the local lasses. I have also gone to other countries in Asia and heard stories from guys who have visited Korea for a short time and heard many a time of how "easy" K-gals are (sort of like J-girls were esp. back the '90s, you know, the whole "yellow cab" thing). And just to be clear, I know of numerous guys here who have "fvck buddies" here, not GFs, and they are quite upfront about what they're after with the women they date.
My own theory is that the less you know about Korean women, the easier they are in many ways. This is such a complicated society that sometimes it's better just to tune out all the BS here if you can. Ignorance is bliss!
Anyway, it sounds like you have a very attractive attitude towards women and life, so I'm sure you'll need no further advice from me about romancing the ladies. Enjoy! |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| So, Korean girls are easy. What about the dance clubs? Are they easy to pick up there if you are tall and white? |
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King Baeksu
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| So, Korean girls are easy. What about the dance clubs? Are they easy to pick up there if you are tall and white? |
Korean girls are easy for some guys, white or whatever.
The most I'm willing to say on the matter is that like attracts like.
What kind of person are you? |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| King Baeksu wrote: |
| kentucker4 wrote: |
| So, Korean girls are easy. What about the dance clubs? Are they easy to pick up there if you are tall and white? |
Korean girls are easy for some guys, white or whatever.
The most I'm willing to say on the matter is that like attracts like.
What kind of person are you? |
I don't know how to really answer that, but I will say this, I am not that naturally outgoing unless I am drinking.
But walking up to a stranger and striking up a conversation doesn't really bother me. I do it a lot but the truth is I hate small talk and am not that great in social situations. Would rather do my own thing unless it's with a close friend or family member. |
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King Baeksu
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| kentucker4 wrote: |
| I hate small talk and am not that great in social situations. Would rather do my own thing unless it's with a close friend or family member. |
Oh my, this is not good news. But I'm sure you'll meet lots of like-minded cuties at your local PC bang. Some of them even look like girls, so just close your eyes as you share a carton of steaming hot shin ramyon with one and you'll never know the difference! |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| King Baeksu wrote: |
| kentucker4 wrote: |
| I hate small talk and am not that great in social situations. Would rather do my own thing unless it's with a close friend or family member. |
Oh my, this is not good news. But I'm sure you'll meet lots of like-minded cuties at your local PC bang. Some of them even look like girls, so just close your eyes as you share a carton of steaming hot shin ramyon with one and you'll never know the difference! |
I'll be fine with the women over there. You make it sound as if all of them are stuck up bi%^%. |
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King Baeksu
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| You make it sound as if all of them are stuck up bi%^%. |
Actually, most of them are insanely insecure. They act the way they do because they've been conditioned by Korean men.
Don't believe the hype -- it's a sequel! |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| King Baeksu wrote: |
| kentucker4 wrote: |
| You make it sound as if all of them are stuck up bi%^%. |
Actually, most of them are insanely insecure. They act the way they do because they've been conditioned by Korean men.
Don't believe the hype -- it's a sequel! |
If they are insecure then can't you just play on their insecurities by making them jealous by showing attention to other girls while occasionallly being nice to her to confuse her? |
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King Baeksu
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If they are insecure then can't you just play on their insecurities by making them jealous by showing attention to other girls while occasionallly being nice to her to confuse her? |
Wow, you haven't even gotten here yet and you've already gone native.
All I know is that I won't be introducing you to my sister, mate. |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| King Baeksu wrote: |
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| If they are insecure then can't you just play on their insecurities by making them jealous by showing attention to other girls while occasionallly being nice to her to confuse her? |
Wow, you haven't even gotten here yet and you've already gone native.
All I know is that I won't be introducing you to my sister, mate. |
No, unfortunately this is how most girls are. It's stupid. I see S Korea must not be different. |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| King Baeksu wrote: |
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| If they are insecure then can't you just play on their insecurities by making them jealous by showing attention to other girls while occasionallly being nice to her to confuse her? |
Wow, you haven't even gotten here yet and you've already gone native.
All I know is that I won't be introducing you to my sister, mate. |
Also, I rarely use these tatics. I am too straight foward and too the point. Insecure girls don't like that because it isn't a challenge. Secure women know what they want and aren't influenced by crap like this. |
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lucas_p
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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K-girls are complex indeed. While in my experience I agree with many of the posters saying they can be wooden, and without personality or wit, they still aren't necessarily "easy".
You have to be able to hit some sort of sexy nerve, or something. My friend and I came to Korea the same time, and we are both pretty regular looking guys, and my friend's personality is actually MORE subdued than mine, but he was able to have many "friends with benefits" as soon as he arrived, and he never reached out... they came to him.
I played the whole "not here for the dating" card, wasn't approached, and realized once I found that one special gal who was so very different from the millions of K-girls, that I needed to get rid of that notion...and...now am married.
If you want something serious, I think people will be in trouble. There is a severe lack of independence, depth, strength and whatnot among Korean girls. If you want to fool around, I think it is actually easier than the US...much easier, in my opinion. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| King Baeksu wrote: |
Wow, I have an honors degree in English Literature and Rhetoric but I guess I should ask for a refund because I have no idea what you're talking about! |
Yeah King, you should ask for a refund especially when you consider the continuity of the following two sentences that you have contributed to this thread.
| King Baeksu wrote: |
The only thing I would say about that is that they are willing to put quite a bit of time into getting what they want.
and then.....
Dude, I have met plenty of guys who have literally stepped off the plane here and begun a shaggin' left and right with the local lasses. |
Well....which is it King? Sounds like those guys who are stepping off the plane aren't putting a whole lot of time into it unless your perception of time is drastically different than most peoples'. Chances are you've happened across some of the local, or not so local "studds" who are always barking on about their conquests. Trust me there's two sides to every story. I knew one of those guys also who claimed to be shagging gals left and right and then, not too long after I overheard him in a restaurant complaining to a confidant that he hadn't scored since he arrived in Korea. I hope you don't plan on writing a book anytime soon. Please try to make up a coherent excuse the next time you are slinging garbage. Oh and it doesn't sound like your attitude toward women is doing you any good either, but hey...your "friends' seem to be having no trouble  By the way...I married the woman I fell in love with in Korea. Cheers!
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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K-girls are complex indeed. While in my experience I agree with many of the posters saying they can be wooden, and without personality or wit, they still aren't necessarily "easy".
You have to be able to hit some sort of sexy nerve, or something. My friend and I came to Korea the same time, and we are both pretty regular looking guys, and my friend's personality is actually MORE subdued than mine, but he was able to have many "friends with benefits" as soon as he arrived, and he never reached out... they came to him.
I played the whole "not here for the dating" card, wasn't approached, and realized once I found that one special gal who was so very different from the millions of K-girls, that I needed to get rid of that notion...and...now am married.
If you want something serious, I think people will be in trouble. There is a severe lack of independence, depth, strength and whatnot among Korean girls. If you want to fool around, I think it is actually easier than the US...much easier, in my opinion. |
Very well put. I don't deny that there are guys who actually do as the "King" suggested but I also think in many cases it can be a matter of sheer luck or simply being in the right place at the right time. I once knew a guy who had 5 K-Gals on the string at once (for real) and then he went back to America for 6 months. When he came back, new city - he couldn't get anything going no matter how hard he tried. In any case I think it would be better advice to tell a prospective newcomer the realities of the situation rather than something based on the barroom rantings of any number of drunk, insecure ESL teachers. Out of all the Westerners I knew in Korea (and there were many) I would say that one out of every ten I knew MAYBE could have fit the bill. Now I have no "Honors Degree" in English Lit as King Baeksu but I do have a degree in statistics and I can tell you that in lieu of those numbers, most people shouldn't expect the best case scenarios. |
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