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Swelling and ice application. How long?

 
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caniff



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Swelling and ice application. How long? Reply with quote

I should know this, as I have had tons of surgeries, injuries, etc. during my life. I was curious as to what others may have heard in regards to this.

I had some metal from a previous knee surgery removed on Friday. Swelled up pretty good, and still seems puffed up.

I have heard that ice should be applied for the first 24 hours, but not afterwards. True?

Medical knowledge moves forward, so maybe what I thought is no longer accepted as proper treatment. Any opinions appreciated.
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oneofthesarahs



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are using ice, do not use it for more than 10-20 minutes at a time. It is possible to get frostbite from ice treatment.

And ice is fairly ineffective in treating swelling past 48 hours. I don't know if you should or shouldn't do it, but it isn't going to help you much past that initial window of time.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Pretty much what I thought. So, just a waste of time to use ice after 48 hours? Is heat effective at this point?
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oneofthesarahs



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, but I think heat should only be used for chronic problems, and not for temporary swelling or injuries.

Edit: This might help. http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23069070/
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caniff



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers! (I say that since you're British). I am a little doubtful about the site's information applying to American physiology, as we have snake-oil and semi-coagulated fat in place of blood.

Nonetheless, good information. Enjoy the holiday.
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faster



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on what the problem is, after 48 hours you can do alternating hot/cold - 30 min hot / 30 min cold. The trainers had me do this when I had shin problems in track in college. It stimulates tissue regeneration and bloodflow (sorta like ultrasound, but not as sci-fi).
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caniff



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

faster wrote:
It stimulates tissue regeneration and bloodflow (sorta like ultrasound, but not as sci-fi).


Interesting. Is this commonly used for sports injury rehab nowadays?
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normalcyispasse



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
faster wrote:
It stimulates tissue regeneration and bloodflow (sorta like ultrasound, but not as sci-fi).


Interesting. Is this commonly used for sports injury rehab nowadays?


Yes. It follows the same principle as contrast baths.

The Sarah girl had it right with the 10-20 minutes until 48 hours thing, too.
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in_seoul_2003



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

normalcyispasse wrote:
caniff wrote:
faster wrote:
It stimulates tissue regeneration and bloodflow (sorta like ultrasound, but not as sci-fi).


Interesting. Is this commonly used for sports injury rehab nowadays?


Yes. It follows the same principle as contrast baths.

The Sarah girl had it right with the 10-20 minutes until 48 hours thing, too.


I thought it was cold-hot, not hot-cold. I've been doing cold-hot for a tendon problem. Should I switch to hot-cold?
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARNICA

Brought some of this back with me from Canada recently.

Helps greatly with bruising & swelling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnica

http://www.hompath.net/materia_medica/arnica-montana.php

Taking any physio-therapy?

Bon chance Wink
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