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[The_Conservative]

[contrarian]

The west should have nuked the PRC a long time ago.

Tou missed the most important factor, Israel cannot afford to take the chance of even one bomb. The thing that the Sampson option affords them is that the Islamic world knows the if it attacks, it dies.

That is a very hard line and I stick to it. Never gain will we go quietly into the night.

[cbclark4]

Report: IDF seized nuclear material before Syria air strike
By Haaretz Service
23/09/2007

Israel Defense Forces commandos seized nuclear material of North Korean origin during a raid on a secret military site in Syria before the Israel Air Force allegedly bombed it this month, British newspaper The Sunday Times reported Sunday.

The report, based on what the newspaper called "informed sources in Washington and Jerusalem," said the air strike was carried out with United States approval after Washington was shown evidence the material was nuclear related.

The paper quoted Israeli sources as saying Israeli special forces had been gathering intelligence for several months in Syria, and had located the nuclear material at a compound in the country's north.

In another report, Newsweek quoted Uzi Arad, a former senior Mossad official and ex-policy advisor to then-prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as saying of the reported operation: I do know what happened, and when it comes out, it will stun everyone."

Netanyahu stirred anger among aides to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert last week when he appeared to confirm reports of the operation - about which Israeli officials have maintained a rare silence - during an interview with Israel Channel One Television.

The Sunday Times reported that diplomats in North Korea and China believe a number of North Koreans were killed in the strike, based on reports reaching Asian governments about conversations between Chinese and North Korean officials. The officials noted that ballistic missile technicians and military scientists had been working for some time with the Syrians.

According to the report, the Bush Administration was given Israeli intelligence suggesting North Korean personnel and nuclear-related material were at the Syrian site over the summer, but the administration demanded "clear evidence of nuclear-related activities before giving the operation its blessing."

As a result, the newspaper said, IDF commandos "almost certainly dressed in Syrian uniforms" seized samples of the nuclear material and took them back to Israel for testing. The sources confirmed that the samples were identified as being from North Korea.

According to the Sunday Times, the site - near Dayr az-Zawr - now lies in ruins following the IAF strike.

The report said the operation was personally directed by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who according to The Sunday Times is said to have been largely preoccupied with it since taking up his post on June 18. The newspaper quoted military experts as saying that the operation probably could not have taken place under former defense minister Amir Peretz.

Syria has said IAF planes violated its airspace and fired missiles at targets on the ground, but both Damascus and Pyongyang have vehemently denied the reports of nuclear cooperation.

The Sunday Times also quoted an Israeli intelligence expert as saying, "Syria has retaliated in the past for much smaller humiliations, but they will choose the place, the time and the target."

The IAF dispatched several fighter jets toward Syria Saturday, after a Syrian airplane disappeared from the Israeli radar screens, army sources said.

The jets returned to base after they ascertained that the Syrian plane had crashed.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/906334.html

[cbclark4]

I still have yet to find mention of this incedent in the fair and balanced press of Al Jazeera?

I'll keep looking.

http://english.aljazeera.net/English

[bassexpander]

This just keeps getting better..... now reports that North Koreans were killed in this raid:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2512380.ece

Snatched: Israeli commandos �nuclear� raid

[contrarian]

Iaf said the Syrian plane crashed.

Translation: We shot the sucker down.

The Israelis are real good at portecting themselves.

[Ya-ta Boy]

[bassexpander]

And nuclear material CAN be proven, without a doubt, as to its origin.

It appears that the Israelis have some now.

[cbclark4]

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/09/120_10776.html

LONDON _ Elite Israeli forces seized North Korean nuclear material during a raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israeli warplanes bombed it Sept. 6, a newspaper reported Sunday.

The Sunday Times quoted well-placed sources as saying the commandos seized the material from a compound near Dayr az-Zwar in northern Syria and that tests of it in Israel showed it was of North Korean origin.

Israel had been surveying the site for months, according to Washington and Israeli sources quoted by the newspaper which gave no date for the commando raid or details about the material seized.

An unidentified senior American source quoted by The Sunday Times added that the US government sought proof of nuclear-related activities before allowing the air strike by F-151 warplanes to go ahead.


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/09/205_10746.html

U.S. President George W. Bush warned North Korea against supplying nuclear know-how to Syria, indicating the issue may prevent the six-party talks from making any progress. However, Seoul officials said the issue will not affect the talks that much.

``We expect them to honor their commitment to giving up nuclear weapons programs, we expect them to stop their proliferation,'' Bush told reporters on Thursday.

In response, Song Min-soon, minister of foreign affairs and trade said Friday that the six-party talks has already addressed the issue as nuclear non-proliferation is a comprehensive concept that includes the disablement of Pyongyang's nuclear facilities and declaration of suspended weapons programs, the core agenda of the coming talks on Sept. 27 in Beijing.

[bassexpander]

Basically, this is very clever on the part of Seoul and Washington.

They're leaving it up to the North Koreans to admit that their people were in Syria, and open themselves up to scrutiny as to why.

With the added proof of NK nuclear material, this puts the noose out there for NK to hang themselves with.

This attack was, without a doubt, a huge embarrassment for Syria, as well as NK. And it appears that Kim Jeong Il has seen his countrymen killed and despite this, will have to run away from the issue like a dog with its tail between its legs or risk digging a deeper hole for himself.

Priceless.

[Harpeau]

[bucheon bum]

well even though i tend to be critical of israel, i have to admit i appreciate what they did here.

[igotthisguitar]

Nuke cache, eh folks? Perhaps.

Yet it could also be a hastily drawn FALSE conclusion.

Why the big RUSH to judgement?

Reality here is that few honestly know, & those who do aren't exactly talking.

So why naively & uncritically wolf down 'line, sinker, & hook' every fabricated media event filtered through to the public?

The bait may be poison

Israel Says It Bombed Syria, But Why Remains A Mystery
By Dion Nissenbaum, McClatchy Newspapers
Tue Oct 2, 6:24 PM ET

JERUSALEM � Nearly a month after a mysterious Israeli military airstrike in Syria generated political aftershocks
from Washington to North Korea , the Israeli government lifted its official veil of secrecy ... Tuesday.

It didn't provide much new information about what took place on Sept. 6 , however. While its government censor cleared the way for journalists here to report that the incident had taken place, rigid rules remained in effect that ban reporting what the target was, what troops were involved or why the strike was ordered.

Israel lifted its ban on reporting that the attack took place after Syrian President Bashar Assad told the British Broadcasting Corp. that Israeli jets had hit an "unused military building." But Israeli officials refused to say anything about the attack, and almost no one who'd be expected to know� from government officials to former intelligence officers� is talking.

Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu , the head of the opposition Likud party, was widely criticized last week after giving a television interview in which he became the first elected leader to say that Israel had launched the attack.

The dearth of information has allowed fertile speculation: The strike was a dry run for an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. The target was an Iranian missile cache bound for Hezbollah Islamic fighters in Lebanon . The attack hit a fledgling Syrian-North Korean nuclear weapons program. Or it was meant to thwart efforts to provide Hezbollah with a "dirty bomb" to use against Israel .

This being the Middle East , however, the simplest theories generally are discounted in favor of more 'convoluted' explanations. One of the latest theories is that North Korea told the United States it had sold nuclear technology to Syria , which prompted the U.S. to tell Israel that North Korea had sold nuclear technology to Syria , which prompted Israel to attack the North Korean technology in Syria .

Follow?

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20071002/wl_mcclatchy/20071002bc
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