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A Different Question About Age And Working In SK
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as-ian



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: A Different Question About Age And Working In SK Reply with quote

[Note: I figured this should be placed in the Job Discussion section. If it does not belong here, then i request those with the power to move it to the appropriate section.]

My little brother just graduated from an accredited university in Washington State. He has his Bachelors degree and is interested in teaching. Like me, he has taught privately to Korean exchange students at his university. He has also spent 5 years teaching computer literacy at his university (to faculty) as well as when he was in high school. He wants to come to S.Korea and teach near my area (although the specific area is not of concern). He has a great work history, including a job at the Washington capital House of Representatives. However, when i looked into teaching in S.Korea for his particular situation, i havent seen anything about one certain aspect: he is 20 years old.

When i came to S.Korea, i was 28 and did not suffer any problems regarding age. Yet, i am not sure about someone who is not the average 22-25 range that some recruiters have specified for the age looked for (whether that range is accurate, i dont know but i suppose it is not the point).

So my question is, as i am sure you can gather, will he face any difficulty? Does his qualifications and family history of teaching benefit him enough to make up for his age?
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: A Different Question About Age And Working In SK Reply with quote

as-ian wrote:
[Note: I figured this should be placed in the Job Discussion section. If it does not belong here, then i request those with the power to move it to the appropriate section.]

My little brother just graduated from an accredited university in Washington State. He has his Bachelors degree and is interested in teaching. Like me, he has taught privately to Korean exchange students at his university. He has also spent 5 years teaching computer literacy at his university (to faculty) as well as when he was in high school. He wants to come to S.Korea and teach near my area (although the specific area is not of concern). He has a great work history, including a job at the Washington capital House of Representatives. However, when i looked into teaching in S.Korea for his particular situation, i havent seen anything about one certain aspect: he is 20 years old.

When i came to S.Korea, i was 28 and did not suffer any problems regarding age. Yet, i am not sure about someone who is not the average 22-25 range that some recruiters have specified for the age looked for (whether that range is accurate, i dont know but i suppose it is not the point).

So my question is, as i am sure you can gather, will he face any difficulty? Does his qualifications and family history of teaching benefit him enough to make up for his age?


Age not necessarily a problem (maybe for some but not for all) ... many of the new teachers at the orientation I just attended were young (one was the same age he is ... though most of the young one's would have been a couple of years older) ... His experience and why he wants to do it ... if he can sell himself ... should be able to make up for his age ... especially if his maturity level is higher than his age ... I would suggest that he consider aiming for the younger age groups (not as close to his age) ... but then he will also know what he feels most comfortable teaching ... and in the long run that will have the biggest impact on his success ...

Icicle
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dave1977



Joined: 14 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been teaching in a hagwon (Incheon)for six months (I'm 30 years old), and have come to the conclusion that it's a job for a younger person straight out of college/university.I feel wiped out somedays after working in a hagwon yelling at kids and trying to get them to work.

I think early 20's is the best time in one's life to suffer in a hagwon (one has more energy to expend and recover). I don't know what it's like to teach in a public school or university, but i'm sure it's easier in some ways (whether you are older or younger).
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard of at least one person who claimed that he had more problems finding a job because he was young but his qualifications were very "ordinary."

It sounds like your brother could bring a lot to the classroom so I would imagine despite the age there will be demand for his services. But, he could definately have problems working with older Koreans because of Korean thinking and concerns about age. High Schoolers and younger, there shouldn't be any problem.
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he has a pulse and a degree, they'll find him a position. No worries!
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave1977 wrote:
I've been teaching in a hagwon (Incheon)for six months (I'm 30 years old), and have come to the conclusion that it's a job for a younger person straight out of college/university.I feel wiped out somedays after working in a hagwon yelling at kids and trying to get them to work.

I think early 20's is the best time in one's life to suffer in a hagwon (one has more energy to expend and recover). I don't know what it's like to teach in a public school or university, but i'm sure it's easier in some ways (whether you are older or younger).


If you came to the hagwon where I work you would be almost the youngest. My director doesnt hire under 30's.

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as-ian



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thank you all for your responses!

I too thought his background would help him, but you never know sometimes. Luckily he is used to be the youngest at whatever he is doing (such as teaching uni staff computer literacy as well as high school). But again, thanks for all your view points! ^^
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as-ian wrote:
I thank you all for your responses!

I too thought his background would help him, but you never know sometimes. Luckily he is used to be the youngest at whatever he is doing (such as teaching uni staff computer literacy as well as high school). But again, thanks for all your view points! ^^


The fact is that the majority of people that are teaching here don't have the qualifications that your brother does, regardless of age. It sounds like he has a good background and experience. I think he is quite hireable, considering what the rest of the prospective teacher pool is. Wish him luck.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has a BA, and he's 20?

How'd he manage that?
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paquebot



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Location: Northern Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
He has a BA, and he's 20?

How'd he manage that?



Taking college classes while at high school (Running Start) or the Advanced Placement exams. I'm also from Washington State and know several people who graduated from uni early due to Running Start, while I earned 15 university credits from the three AP classes I took during high school.


To the OP: I won't claim to be an expert, but if he's working with elementary or middle-school students I don't think his age should be much of a problem. If he's aiming for a university position or one teaching adults it might be uncomfortable for a few hiring directors, but I think his credentials should speak well on his behalf.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe in such accelerated programs. Especially where they are only afforded to a few individuals in one area. Generally, frumpy areas where people with money can influence and bend rules of local educational systems to be "better" than those around them.

I'd hope that if he graduated from a university at 20, he'd be making more use of it, and furthering his education. Perhaps a Masters by 22?
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as-ian



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
I don't believe in such accelerated programs. Especially where they are only afforded to a few individuals in one area. Generally, frumpy areas where people with money can influence and bend rules of local educational systems to be "better" than those around them.

I'd hope that if he graduated from a university at 20, he'd be making more use of it, and furthering his education. Perhaps a Masters by 22?


paquebot wrote:
Taking college classes while at high school (Running Start) or the Advanced Placement exams. I'm also from Washington State and know several people who graduated from uni early due to Running Start, while I earned 15 university credits from the three AP classes I took during high school.


He did advanced placement exams. He got his BA in 8 months by testing out of all of the classes required for his degree. 35 tests in total. I took 12 psychology tests (since that is about all i am proficient in) back at my old university and they are just difficult exams unless you are EXTREMELY proficient at that subject. He is already setup on his masters as well, and will have that after his year here. Quite a brilliant kid ^^

Again, thank you for your view points. It all helps. ^_~
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="bassexpander"]He has a BA, and he's 20?

How'd he manage that?[/quote]


MAYBE you are 20 with a BA, but many others teaching in Korea are 19-21 with shady academic credentials. I've already worked with someone from Calgary who was 21 and claimed to have a bachelor's degree, and couldn't write a complete sentence. Rolling Eyes
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if he is really that smart, he can do better.
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was 20 when I came to Korea the first time. I didn't have any serious trouble finding a job. Since he already has experience, he should have no problem. He'll have to get used to being bossed around byeveryone, since age is so important here. I also would suggest he not tell his students his true age. I had more problems being a woman, than being young. He'll be fine.
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