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Ahmadinejad to Speak at Columbia...
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
Ya know, I'll bet the main reason you never played sports in high school is that you were embarrassed to advertize your IQ on your jersey.


Oh zing!

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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
keane explained:

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There is no difference in the context. I paraphrased you, and did so appropriately.

The poorest logical construct is the lie. Stop lying.


What on earth are you talking about EFLT? In the first place, I was weighing the consequences; then I opted for letting him speak. How does that tact demonstrate my need to question his legitimacy?


Your use of dignity is used in the same mien as, "I refuse to dignify that with an answer."

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He has no dignity, however, whether he speaks at Columbia or not. He's nothing more than a rabble rouser.


Ah. You hve stated it, so must it be. He has tons of dignity, I'm sure. Where the hell do you think dignity comes from? Do you understand the word?

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Ya know, I'll bet the main reason you never played sports in high school is that you shuddered at the prospect of advertising your IQ on your jersey.


Sadly for you, I did play sports in school. The damned number never did fit.

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kisses...
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
stevemcgarrett wrote:
Ya know, I'll bet the main reason you never played sports in high school is that you were embarrassed to advertize your IQ on your jersey.


Oh zing!



I hope that was as sarcastic as I think it was, or I've just lost a lot of respect for one of the few posters here deserving any.

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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keane wrote:
mithridates wrote:
stevemcgarrett wrote:
Ya know, I'll bet the main reason you never played sports in high school is that you were embarrassed to advertize your IQ on your jersey.


Oh zing!



I hope that was as sarcastic as I think it was, or I've just lost a lot of respect for one of the few posters here deserving any.

Wink


I interpreted it as Mith making fun of the seriousness with which many posters view internet antics. Seemed more a light dig at SM than at you.
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keane



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
keane wrote:
mithridates wrote:
stevemcgarrett wrote:
Ya know, I'll bet the main reason you never played sports in high school is that you were embarrassed to advertize your IQ on your jersey.


Oh zing!



I hope that was as sarcastic as I think it was, or I've just lost a lot of respect for one of the few posters here deserving any.

Wink


I interpreted it as Mith making fun of the seriousness with which many posters view internet antics. Seemed more a light dig at SM than at you.


Thus the wink.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday that the American people are eager for different opinions about the world, and he is looking forward to providing them with "correct and clear information," state media reported...

"The United States is a big and important country with a population of 300 million. Due to certain issues, the American people in the past years have been denied correct and clear information about global developments and are eager to hear different opinions," Ahmadinejad was quoted by IRNA as saying...

Columbia University President Lee Bollinger has resisted requests to cancel the event but promised to introduce the talk himself with a series of tough questions on topics including Ahmadinejad's views on the Holocaust, his call for the destruction of the state of Israel and his government's alleged support of terrorism.


CNN Reports
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=78998031-0f41-4fc8-bfd2-2fe5496dceb7&p=Source_NBC%20News%20Web%20Extra&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=

He's a populist. But where is he taking his country? Economic stagnation( he controls the banks' interest rates and gives out money as if it grew on trees) and stronger military postures from the West. I doubt these are what Iranians want; I get the feeling Iranians want warmer ties with the West. Yet this simplistic sycophant wants rattle his saber and provoke Western nations. What is the strategic thinking behind Iran's leadership?

The president of a nation who considers me the Great Satan. He can go F@%&* himself.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

And he has been personally intervening in American domestic politics for sometime. I find this especially ironic given the nature of his complaints about America.

He also challenged W. Bush to debate him. Diplomacy does not get more adversarial than that.

I expect little more to result from this than another Chavez-like United-Nations diatribe against the Great Satan. I would wager that he will not even be able to sit still while Bollinger asks his "hard questions" -- and I would wager even more that he will not answer them directly or satisfactorily, either.
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cerulean808



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US government has aided and abetted plenty of cruel tyrants, so the lack of democracy and human rights violations can't be reasons for the American Crazies' hysterical demonisation of the Iranian regime.

No, what has got them going is that Iran is a regional power that is wrestling with the super power the US for dominance in the Middle East.
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spliff



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Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, maybe I need a good thwacking with the Imperial Cluebat but I can�t understand the triangulation that these leftards come up with. You invite a genocidal maniac that:

1. Executes homosexuals
2. Oppresses and beats women
3. Mandates state religion and education
4. Advocates foreign adventures
5. Outlaws abortion
6. Supports the death penalty

What am I missing here? I thought the Evil Bush/Hitler Regime are the ones who did this?
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerulean808 wrote:
The US government has aided and abetted plenty of cruel tyrants, so the lack of democracy and human rights violations can't be reasons for the American Crazies' hysterical demonisation of the Iranian regime.

No, what has got them going is that Iran is a regional power that is wrestling with the super power the US for dominance in the Middle East.


Wonderful, more anti-american gobbledegook. I don't know where your beliefs come from but I do question your value system. Here is Iran's...

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cerulean808



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah gruesome, like what so many US sponsored monsters have done and then some. So its not because of Iran's 'value system' that the US has an axe to grind with them.

Oh yeah, how many innocent poor blacks in America have been cooked in the electric chair or rot away in prison, you like to collect pictures of them too, Pluto?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerulean808 wrote:
Yeah gruesome, like what so many US sponsored monsters have done and then some. So its not because of Iran's 'value system' that the US has an axe to grind with them.

Oh yeah, how many innocent poor blacks in America have been cooked in the electric chair or rot away in prison, you like to collect pictures of them too, Pluto?



In the vast majority of cases the US sponsored dictators they were fighting against others who were just as cruel and and anti democratic as those the US supported.



There is nothing wrong with supporting a dictator who is on your side when the opposition is part of a movement against your nation , is being supported by your enemies , just as cruel and undemocratic and there is no liberal democratic alternative.


The cold war was justified.


US supported Park Jung Hee but South Korea is now democratic unlike North Korea. If North Korea had conquered South Korea it would never have happened. And Currelan808 wouldn't have a job. Seems the US government knows what is better for him than he does. Idea


And one more thing: cerulean808 the US record has had a shameful history in it action towards minorities, nevertheless the US has made a much greater effort than most other nations trying to fix it.

cerulean808 you are another amateur enemy of the US who has big dreams of going pro.


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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They [Iranian government officials and religious leaders post-1979] seize our embassy in Tehran and call us "the Great Satan," jump into state-sponsored terrorism with ops in Western Europe and South America, help Hezbollah bomb the Marine barracks and American embassy in 1983, blackmail us over hostages through the 1980s, kidnap, torture, and murder Colonel Higgins in Beirut...the list goes on...they presently seek nuclear weapons, for example, likely related to their quest to establish a Middle-Eastern sphere-of-influence (that is, "empire"), delete the Holocaust from our historical memory, and rework the map so Israel does not appear on it anymore...and, in any case, we are guilty of demonizing them? ROFL.

spliff wrote:
What am I missing here...?


Iran hates America; and "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." William Blum praises Ahmadinejad, for example. Nothing more to know about it than that.

So you are not missing anything after all, Spliff. You merely lack the far left's myopic antiAmericanism and thus see things differently. But I still share your confusion in the far left's unrelenting apologia for Ahmadinejad and others, like Chavez, which comes down not to positive apologia but rather distraction and smoke-screen: they have no tolerance for and will not discuss at all any problems in the world but America's problems. U.S.-centrism in its most acute -- and pathological -- form.

Just watch the fireworks after Ahmadinejad speaks before the United Nations and at Columbia. His apologists will fall all over themselves to clarify that he really did not mean any of what he is about to tell us, he is really just a nice guy who merely wants to get along in this cruel world...


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keane



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
He also challenged W. Bush to debate him. Diplomacy does not get more adversarial than that.


Shocked Shocked Shocked
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