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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: Evil people |
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People who complain about babies and toddlers misbehaving in public have hearts blacker and colder than a certain guy who went by the name of Scrooge. Except in their case there is no chance for redemption. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Before I came to Korea, I met a couple who had just returned from Korea.
They told me, "The whole country revolves around children. They are free to run around in restaurants and talk to other customers."
I fought back the temptation to say, "Oh, really? Sounds like just my kind of place!" |
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Tjames426
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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You have to remember not all cultures are fixated on children.
Proverbs and etc....
Children play with children. Adults with adults.
If your family has visitors, all the children go outside and play or go to their rooms to play. Never stay in the same room as the adults.
Children should be seen, not heard.
Quote: "Don't speak unless you are spoken too"
At family gatherings, there is an adult table, and a kid's table. It was a awesome day of graduation to be 'adult" enough to sit with your parents, uncles and grandparents.
Concerning Korea...
I get upset that I see parents dragging toddler child around grocery stores at 10 pm at night. At least, it is not like in the US where you are in Walmart seeing teens hanging out and loud at 10 am.
You look at them and wonder why they are not at school. Or, you wonder why they are not in Home School. Or, you assume their parents tell the "godless" public school system they kids are being christian home schooled, but mommy and daddy never get around to it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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People who complain about babies and toddlers misbehaving in public have hearts blacker and colder than a certain guy who went by the name of Scrooge. Except in their case there is no chance for redemption.
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Is this your effort to redeem yourself, by lining up on the side of kids?
Pretty weak, jinju. Pretty weak. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
Before I came to Korea, I met a couple who had just returned from Korea.
They told me, "The whole country revolves around children. They are free to run around in restaurants and talk to other customers."
I fought back the temptation to say, "Oh, really? Sounds like just my kind of place!" |
Today a young boy walked up to my table in a park and at first grabbed an empty cola can , then snatched my camera and took off! The mother brought the camera back right away and I said no problem to her. Then the father whacked the boy in the butt a couple of times, but each time he hit the kid he immediately smiled , laughed and hugged the boy. Interesting kind of discipline, I am sure they have a lot of problems with that kid.
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Evil people |
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jinju wrote: |
People who complain about babies and toddlers misbehaving in public have hearts blacker and colder than a certain guy who went by the name of Scrooge. Except in their case there is no chance for redemption. |
But what if they are Chinese babies and toddlers? |
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Why couldn't all parents be as loving as Korean parents who let the kids hang in carbon monoxide filled PC Bangs for hours on end?
On the other hand, if so many Koreans were to, at least slightly, relinquish the "anything goes for children" mentality, perhaps we'd see slightly less suicides resulting from people who were so extravagantly pampered as kids they failed to cope with the rigors of adulthood.
What does Korea rank in suicides again? |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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This is the sort of post one of those parents who thinks everything their kid does is great/cute would write. Kid throws food at the next table. Parent says, "Oh look, little Jimmy is really developing a good arm." |
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Don Gately

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: In a basement taking a severe beating
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Evil people |
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jinju wrote: |
People who complain about babies and toddlers misbehaving in public have hearts blacker and colder than a certain guy who went by the name of Scrooge. Except in their case there is no chance for redemption. |
I disagree. Parents should control their children in public. |
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rubric

Joined: 28 Oct 2006 Location: Pongdongfongyong
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Here�s an anecdote that�s loosely related to the topic. My friend said he learnt a huge lesson here that he has never forgotten.
A couple of years ago a friend of mine was riding the train in Sydney. Across from him was a father and two young boys. Both kids were jumping up and down, making noise, and tearing around the train car. The father was just kind of looking at them but not making any attempt to settle them down. My friend was about to make a comment about taking care of your kids and keeping them under control, but he kept it to himself, thinking it was really none of his business. The man was just a bad father. When the man saw my friend looking in his direction, he smiled tiredly and said �They�ve just come back from the hospital after saying �goodbye� to their mum. They�re a bit hyper, sorry about the noise.� |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Parents should always control their children. You can let them be children, but even children need (and actually want) limits. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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in_seoul_2003 wrote: |
Why couldn't all parents be as loving as Korean parents who let the kids hang in carbon monoxide filled PC Bangs for hours on end?
On the other hand, if so many Koreans were to, at least slightly, relinquish the "anything goes for children" mentality, perhaps we'd see slightly less suicides resulting from people who were so extravagantly pampered as kids they failed to cope with the rigors of adulthood.
What does Korea rank in suicides again? |
No idea, but it's not even in the top ten. Japan on the other hand ranks 8th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide
One has to wonder about all those East European countries so extravagantly pampering kids that they have such a high rate of suicide...  |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
Parents should always control their children. You can let them be children, but even children need (and actually want) limits. |
That last part about kids wanting limits is said alllll the time, but how would anyone ever prove that? I think it's baloney, and used as a way to soothe the conscious of caring but impatient parents. When I was young, never once did I think about how great it was having a bunch of arbitrary rules. In fact, I hated rules, and spent much time seething as a child. |
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faster

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Parents can let their kids run around freely as much as they want, just not around me.
I'm not above bringing a kid back to his (it's usually boys, I've noticed) table when he's disrupting my meal; I've done it before and I would do it again.
/blackheart |
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The Hierophant

Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Qinella wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
Parents should always control their children. You can let them be children, but even children need (and actually want) limits. |
That last part about kids wanting limits is said alllll the time, but how would anyone ever prove that? I think it's baloney, and used as a way to soothe the conscious of caring but impatient parents. When I was young, never once did I think about how great it was having a bunch of arbitrary rules. In fact, I hated rules, and spent much time seething as a child. |
Structure gives kids a sense of security. Even if they hate that structure and rebel against it, it still provides them with predictability and stability. Later in life kids may come to realize just how subjective and arbitrary the rules are, but in their formative years most kids like to believe in social boundaries even if they don't fully understand why these boundaries exist. |
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