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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: Filipino Wave vs. Korean Wave |
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I've noticed that there are alot of big name celebs and others of Filipino descent in the states.
You can see a list of some here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Filipino_Americans
Some notables are:
the wrestler Bautista
the UFC fighter Brandon Vera who's fighting Tim Sylvia this UFC 77
the lead singer of the P$ssycat dolls
te R&B singer Cassie
and on and on
Now, I've been to the Phils many many times. And every time I'm there I make a point of reading two-three of the big name daily papers. But I rarely ever hear about these Filipino celebs. It's completely different from Korea when even someone like this Sonya Thomas world-eating champ can make a major Korean paper. Korea gets a hard on every time anything or anyone even remotely related to Korea so much as burps outside this nation.
What's even worse is that those 4 celebs I mentioned above are all half-Filipino BUT BUT BUT for each one the FATHER is Filipino while the mom is something else.
But still, I rarely hear about them or read about them or see images of them there.
Contrast this with Korea which especially loves when the father is Korean and there are some huge differences in maturity.
The Filipinos seem to say, "Oh yea, that's right, he/she is Filipino."
While for the Koreans it's more like, "Do you know-------? You, don't! Why?! He/she is famous all over the world!!" |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren

Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Location: Suyuskis
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Koreans are insecure. That's just the way they have been brought up. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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how about Ang Lee from Taiwan? I bet he really annoys Koreans. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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My take is that the tiny little English newspapers in Korea try to be 'foreign-oriented'. They are at a loss for topics to write about, and that seems like a good one that foreigners might be interested to know.
The Philippines reports EVERYTHING in English (okay, and Tagalog is in there as well), but English rules in the Philippines and they talk about everything that is going on in English as well. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Who are all those people? |
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget Tony award winner Lea Salonga. She was the first Asian to play Eponine in the musical Les Mis�rables on Broadway. She was also the singing voice of Princess Jasmine in Aladdin and the singing voice for Mulan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lea_Salonga |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean wave is huge though. In China you can hear Korean songs everywhere. I'm in a Chinese Internet cafe now (wang ba) and half of the youngsters are watching Korean soaps on their computers. It is quite an achievement for Korea to have so much cultural influence over the rest of Asia and cannot really begrudge them for celebrating it
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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pugwall wrote: |
The Korean wave is huge though. In China you can here Korean songs everywhere. I'm in a Chinese Internet cafe now (wang ba) and half of the youngsters are watching Korean soaps on their computers. It is quite an achievement for Korea to have so much cultural influence over the rest of Asia and cannot really begrudge them for celebrating it |
That's besides the point though. We have enough examples of Koreans and media latching onto to every little detail even if it hurts them by making them look desparate for info.
Did you know that D-War is in the US? Sure, we all know that, it's hard not to know of it here.
Now, did you know that Enriques Iglesias is half-Filipino and that one of the lead singers of the Black Eyed Peas is Filipino? I didn't. But that's the point.
Everytime I was in the Phils I never read about it, heard about it, saw images suggesting it, or had anyone mention it to me.
HUGE difference. |
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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And those are some pretty big, internationally recognized names. We're not talking about a largely anonymous Hines Ward or Daniel Henney or Dennis Kang. |
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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djsmnc wrote: |
Who are all those people? |
This is another good point. Filipinos wouldn't care if you don't know. But if you don't know people Koreans deem famous they go ape *beep*. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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in_seoul_2003 wrote: |
djsmnc wrote: |
Who are all those people? |
This is another good point. Filipinos wouldn't care if you don't know. But if you don't know people Koreans deem famous they go ape *beep*. |
Really? I always tell them I don't know. They don't seem to go to crazy about it. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Korean Wave V's Filipino Wave
I believe the Korean Wave is with the hand moving horizontally, whereas the Filipino Wave has the hand moving vertically. Which wins in the waving contest? Neither!
Both are beaten hands down by the Mexican Wave. |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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in_seoul_2003 wrote: |
And those are some pretty big, internationally recognized names. We're not talking about a largely anonymous Hines Ward or Daniel Henney or Dennis Kang. |
But the Korean stars are huge though. Just not in the English speaking world. It is probable that Rain is recognised by more people in the world than the Black Eyed Peas. Why begrudge Korea celebrating the rather recent cultural impact they have had in the world. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Fillipinos can really sing, hawt damn! They are fun people, I never seem hear a bad thing about them (except for their politics and assassinations). |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to make a post about this yesterday and compare Korea's reaction to Korean achievement to Jamaica's but it's not really fair.
Korea's are all about "their people" so if one achieves, I suppose all can bask in the glow. And it's used as further proof of their awesomeness. I think the underlying belief that achievement = ethnic/racial/national superiority sets Korea apart from other countries.
Jamaica is similar but the achievement of others is not used as proof of ethnic superiority...or something to that effect. It's interesting given that Jamaica is far smaller than Korea. I think most Jamaicans' reaction to hearing of a Jamaican becoming famous or a Jamaica- ~ (American, Brit, Canadian) is usually, "Really?"
On an unrelated note, I remember being pissed when I discovered that Sean "P. Diddy" Combs was first generation (or is that second...hm) like me
Oh and as for Rain... Bob Marley is known all over the world and no Jamaican feels the need to harp about his "Jamaicaness" |
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