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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: job offer |
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What do you guys think about this job offer. 2-1 miilion won in downtown Busan from 2-9 pm.
Are these standard or good hours? I was thinking the 8-3 or 8-5 type deal. |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Would any of you guys take a 2-9 job? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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3-9 for 2.2 is the newbie standard these days...
the job offer you mention is subpar for the newbie course
btw, i worked 3-9 for over three years and loved it... like two days in one, wake up, don't have to even think about getting ready for work until noon and after work was dinner out in restaurants with coworkers, adult students, friends, and while i liked to sleep by 11-12 there were plenty of late nights with plenty of time to sleep in
(i work 2-7 these days for 2.5) |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
3-9 for 2.2 is the newbie standard these days...
the job offer you mention is subpar for the newbie course
btw, i worked 3-9 for over three years and loved it... like two days in one, wake up, don't have to even think about getting ready for work until noon and after work was dinner out in restaurants with coworkers, adult students, friends, and while i liked to sleep by 11-12 there were plenty of late nights with plenty of time to sleep in
(i work 2-7 these days for 2.5) |
Oh well, I have been working 3rd shift in our local mill. I guess I should just be happy with any hours.
So...is teaching hard at first? I mean...is it intimidating getting up in front of all of tose kids and gaining their attention? Also, how in the heck do you instruct them when you don't speak Korean? |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| kentucker4 wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
3-9 for 2.2 is the newbie standard these days...
the job offer you mention is subpar for the newbie course
btw, i worked 3-9 for over three years and loved it... like two days in one, wake up, don't have to even think about getting ready for work until noon and after work was dinner out in restaurants with coworkers, adult students, friends, and while i liked to sleep by 11-12 there were plenty of late nights with plenty of time to sleep in
(i work 2-7 these days for 2.5) |
Oh well, I have been working 3rd shift in our local mill. I guess I should just be happy with any hours.
So...is teaching hard at first? I mean...is it intimidating getting up in front of all of tose kids and gaining their attention? Also, how in the heck do you instruct them when you don't speak Korean? |
keep in mind, there are jobs galore. really consider Seoul too, I think you have a lot more chances to supplement your income there, although Busan is probably great for that too, and on the ocean.
As for the teaching, just roll with it, try not to ever take it seriously, just have fun, don't be a clown, but try to make it enjoyable for you and the kids. Remember what you liked about teachers, and then try to be that. And don't worry about the language, just keep it simple, and try to teach just a little bit above their level, which is very basic, in most cases. Enjoy yourself, I'm sure you'll love it, most of the time. Definitely beats mill work! |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| kentucker4 wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
3-9 for 2.2 is the newbie standard these days...
the job offer you mention is subpar for the newbie course
btw, i worked 3-9 for over three years and loved it... like two days in one, wake up, don't have to even think about getting ready for work until noon and after work was dinner out in restaurants with coworkers, adult students, friends, and while i liked to sleep by 11-12 there were plenty of late nights with plenty of time to sleep in
(i work 2-7 these days for 2.5) |
Oh well, I have been working 3rd shift in our local mill. I guess I should just be happy with any hours.
So...is teaching hard at first? I mean...is it intimidating getting up in front of all of tose kids and gaining their attention? Also, how in the heck do you instruct them when you don't speak Korean? |
keep in mind, there are jobs galore. really consider Seoul too, I think you have a lot more chances to supplement your income there, although Busan is probably great for that too, and on the ocean.
As for the teaching, just roll with it, try not to ever take it seriously, just have fun, don't be a clown, but try to make it enjoyable for you and the kids. Remember what you liked about teachers, and then try to be that. And don't worry about the language, just keep it simple, and try to teach just a little bit above their level, which is very basic, in most cases. Enjoy yourself, I'm sure you'll love it, most of the time. Definitely beats mill work! |
So you don;t think I should settle for the 2.1 million won??? |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Just repond to the recruiter saying you are very interested in the job in Busan and that Busan is your first choice but you've been offered 2.4 in Incheon or somewhere else. Then ask them to see if they could possibly get you a bit more. Maybe they'll come back with 2.3; can't hurt.
The hours are about right but you'll want to find out about the specific teaching hours. Some of my friends teach 7 hours straight somedays. That's rough stuff. I lucked out. I teach maybe 2 hours somedays and no more than 5 hours a few days a week. But, I still have to be physically there 8 hours/ day. My contracts almost up so that'll change soon.
Is it intimidating? Not unless you are easily intimidated. generally elementary kids take a lot of energy to keep them focused. Midle school kids can be the same, but not as bad. And, high school kids can be deadly quiet and shy. Adults and any age student who is really motivated to improve their engrish , of course, are the best. the evening shift teaching is not bad at all.
Are you from Kentucky? Get out of the mill and put your dergee to a little use. It's fun if you are laid back and not put off by a different culture. You won't be in for a weather shock if you are from Kentucky either. 4 seasons, just like home.
Oh, and if need extra cash and are friendly ie., a people person, there's always side work for the willing. Oh well, off to the side work...
Oh well, good luck-off |
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newteacher
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and if need extra cash and are friendly ie., a people person, there's always side work for the willing. Oh well, off to the side work...
Oh well, good luck-off |
So this is common? Because I've been offered some and it's just to cover for someone else for now, but to maybe take over as a weekly thing when he goes back. I was a little wary about it because I know it's illegal. |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Just repond to the recruiter saying you are very interested in the job in Busan and that Busan is your first choice but you've been offered 2.4 in Incheon or somewhere else. Then ask them to see if they could possibly get you a bit more. Maybe they'll come back with 2.3; can't hurt.
The hours are about right but you'll want to find out about the specific teaching hours. Some of my friends teach 7 hours straight somedays. That's rough stuff. I lucked out. I teach maybe 2 hours somedays and no more than 5 hours a few days a week. But, I still have to be physically there 8 hours/ day. My contracts almost up so that'll change soon.
Is it intimidating? Not unless you are easily intimidated. generally elementary kids take a lot of energy to keep them focused. Midle school kids can be the same, but not as bad. And, high school kids can be deadly quiet and shy. Adults and any age student who is really motivated to improve their engrish , of course, are the best. the evening shift teaching is not bad at all.
Are you from Kentucky? Get out of the mill and put your dergee to a little use. It's fun if you are laid back and not put off by a different culture. You won't be in for a weather shock if you are from Kentucky either. 4 seasons, just like home.
Oh, and if need extra cash and are friendly ie., a people person, there's always side work for the willing. Oh well, off to the side work...
Oh well, good luck-off |
Hmm.so you don't think that would ruin my chances for this job if he can't go higher? |
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newteacher
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| kentucker4 wrote: |
| PGF wrote: |
Just repond to the recruiter saying you are very interested in the job in Busan and that Busan is your first choice but you've been offered 2.4 in Incheon or somewhere else. Then ask them to see if they could possibly get you a bit more. Maybe they'll come back with 2.3; can't hurt.
The hours are about right but you'll want to find out about the specific teaching hours. Some of my friends teach 7 hours straight somedays. That's rough stuff. I lucked out. I teach maybe 2 hours somedays and no more than 5 hours a few days a week. But, I still have to be physically there 8 hours/ day. My contracts almost up so that'll change soon.
Is it intimidating? Not unless you are easily intimidated. generally elementary kids take a lot of energy to keep them focused. Midle school kids can be the same, but not as bad. And, high school kids can be deadly quiet and shy. Adults and any age student who is really motivated to improve their engrish , of course, are the best. the evening shift teaching is not bad at all.
Are you from Kentucky? Get out of the mill and put your dergee to a little use. It's fun if you are laid back and not put off by a different culture. You won't be in for a weather shock if you are from Kentucky either. 4 seasons, just like home.
Oh, and if need extra cash and are friendly ie., a people person, there's always side work for the willing. Oh well, off to the side work...
Oh well, good luck-off |
Hmm.so you don't think that would ruin my chances for this job if he can't go higher? |
K, I agree with them. You should expect at least 2.2 million. That's pretty much standard. That's what I'm getting and I just finished my degree in May, I have absolutely no teaching experience, and no teaching cert. Hold out for at least that. Plus, make sure if you're on salary they provide all the other benefits. When you add housing costs it usually would end up being a salary of 3.0+/month. There's enough work around that you definitely can do better than 2.1
Is it a public or private school? |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a private school. |
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newteacher
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a private school. |
I'd definitely hold out for more then, or just find another school. You'll have to work a lot more hours at a private school than you would at a public. For some it's worth taking a pay cut to work at public school because they get tons of vacation time, but generally you should expect to get paid a little higher at a private school.
In terms of your earlier questions about actually teaching. I signed up with CDI which is a pretty good school for starters if you get in at a good branch. They train you up in Seoul and you have a pretty strict curriculum so you can learn to teach for a while before having to come up with your own lesson plans. And they'll pay you pretty much whatever the standard rate for newbies is. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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K4 get a hold of the contract and post it in the contract sticky.
Wait for ttompatz to critique it, then use his advise ask the recruiter to strike out any clause that ttompatz objects to, don't accept anything less,
I think you'll do all right in Busan.
Did your recruiter have any public school jobs available, a lot less stress in the public system. |
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