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New hagwon owners- advice needed(update)

 
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stiofan



Joined: 24 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: New hagwon owners- advice needed(update) Reply with quote

hey ppl, thanks to those who replied/offered advice. I had my meeting today and basically they have agreed to give me a letter of release which begins at the beginning of november Smile

I now have 4 weeks left of work here and the same amount of time to get me a new job etc. Chuffed.


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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would attempt to negotiate a letter of release from the original owners and get them to visit your local immigration office with you. Why not, they wouldn't be losing anything if they let you go, unless their hagwon sale includes the value of already working experienced teachers.

I understand that when a hagwon changes ownership, the contract time resets to 0 and can change in any way possible or impossible. Is this correct?
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:

I understand that when a hagwon changes ownership, the contract time resets to 0 and can change in any way possible or impossible. Is this correct?


Anyone know about this? It is a big concern of mine.
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
I would attempt to negotiate a letter of release from the original owners and get them to visit your local immigration office with you. Why not, they wouldn't be losing anything if they let you go, unless their hagwon sale includes the value of already working experienced teachers.

I understand that when a hagwon changes ownership, the contract time resets to 0 and can change in any way possible or impossible. Is this correct?


Not exactly. The length of time you can stay in Korea is governed by the visa not contract. The contract can only change in a way that does not violate the visa. For example they can not ask you to work six days a week ten hours a day, nor can they demand that you work a entire 12 months, if you have worked for any significant length of time prior to the change.


Once all outstanding monies have been paid the contract is terminated and you must sign a new one and go to Immigration again should the hakwon change hands.

I'm pretty sure you don't need a letter of release. Since he is not longer sponsoring you, wouldn't that make your visa invalid? I'd check this out with Immigration ASAP.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gee, an increase to a nine and a half hour workday, and teaching kindergarten to boot! they really pulled a fast one there.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typical hogwan. Rolling Eyes
Newbies, this can happen to anyone.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - my understanding is that if your hagwon changes owner, you are no longer liable to work for them and your contract is meaningless.

Either renegotiate your contract and sign a new one - or contact the labour board for help.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New owner means your contract AND your visa are no longer valid.

You technically have 14 days from the change of ownership to deal with immigration or leave the country or face fines.

You need to negotiate a new contract then make the trip to immigration and get a new sponsorship (visa sponsorship transfered to the new owner)

OR

NOT negotiate a new contract, make the trip to immigration, tell them that your hakwon was sold and get your old visa canceled so you can get a new sponsor (new job).

You should not require a release letter but may need to prove that the school has changed owners (immigration office call the school).

You may also have to include the labor office to get any deposit money, etc back from the old employer.

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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure your visa is attached to a person and hence, if that person no longer owns the hagwon, your visa is invalid. The best thing to do would be to go to or phone immigration and find out your options. Getting a Korean person to do this might be even better.
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stiofan



Joined: 24 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooops, see my update in OP
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