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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: Korea's Corruption Worsens (No Sh!t) |
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Just read this on The Korea Times:
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Transparency International Says Korea's Corruption Worsens
By Kim Tae-jong
Staff Reporter
South Korea placed 43rd out of 180 countries surveyed in a global corruption index, an international corruption watchdog said Wednesday.
The result is from the Berlin-based Transparency International's (TI) annual corruption perception report.
The survey covering 180 countries and territories, ranked them according to perceived levels of corruption among public officials and politicians.
South Korea scored 5.1 and ranked 25th out of 30 OECD member countries.
TI's Korean chapter said that South Korea has made little improvement in transparency, citing that the country ranked 42nd out of 163 countries last year.
``The result is very disappointing,'' TI Korea said in a statement. ``It is far behind the high expectations of the people who had hoped that corruption problems would be tackled. There has been little improvement.''
The NGO urged the government to find a profound solution to tackle the corruption problems.
Denmark, Finland and New Zealand topped the survey for fair judiciaries and transparent public finances, with 9.4. At the other end of the scale, Somalia and Myanmar shared the lowest score of 1.4.
Forty percent of countries scored below three, which indicates corruption is perceived as rampant, and are classified by the World Bank as low income nations, the report said.
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To be honest, I am not surprised about this article. Korea doesn't seem to understand that if you fake your academic history you are corrupt. If you take bribes, you are corrupt. If you lose face and decide to beat some people round the back for your embarrassment, you are corrupt. Come on Korea, time to become more transparent and less corrupt. Well we could only dream that.
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Korea was always corrupt. Perhaps it's actually the same, or better.
I just think that internationally, others are finally taking notice of how corrupt it is here. Before, few cared about this little country. Now, as Korean business interacts with other countries on a more global scale, Koreans are making a name for themselves.
And it's not a positive one. |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Korea's Corruption Worsens (No *beep*) |
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| Whistleblower wrote: |
Opinions? |
For starters, its called the TI Corruption Perception index. Korea scored a 5.1 (/10) this year, same as last year.
Korea is just as corrupt as it always was, but it is becoming a little more open about it. Its like AA: The first step is acknowledging you have a problem.
"Hi. Welcome to CA. My name is Korea and I'm a Corruptionoholic." |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm very surprised that the land had such a good score. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| You'd think that the Korean media and netizens would lay off all the "corrupt" foreigners that are "corrupting" their country. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| South Korea scored 5.1 and ranked 25th out of 30 OECD member countries. |
Hey, Korea is not last!! That is something for them to be proud of. There are 5 OECD countries that are more corrupt than Korea. Congrats Korea!!!
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
Korea was always corrupt. Perhaps it's actually the same, or better.
I just think that internationally, others are finally taking notice of how corrupt it is here. Before, few cared about this little country. Now, as Korean business interacts with other countries on a more global scale, Koreans are making a name for themselves.
And it's not a positive one. |
Exactly... |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes. Agreed. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Get rid of all the prostitutes, corrupt immigration officials, hogwan owners, illegal Canadians and corrupt police. If that happens, then South Korea might improve their score by two points. Who knows, right? |
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Corky
Joined: 06 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| garykasparov wrote: |
| Get rid of all the prostitutes |
Why would you want to do that? |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Corky wrote: |
| garykasparov wrote: |
| Get rid of all the prostitutes |
Why would you want to do that? |
To many people have been poking them. It's about time we get a fresh batch. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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Was talking with the lady about dual bank accounts, as I was curious about getting one. Married couples often do so in the West. Korea doesn't have them, for the most part. Well, they sort of do, but you're only allowed on ATM card, and under restrictions as to how you can take out money.
When I asked why, she said that ten or so years ago, corrupt politicians and police were using dual-person accounts to hide illegal money transfers and payoffs for various illegal activities. Some chaebols and people working for them were involved - and it wasn't just a few people.
Korea's answer was to end dual owner bank accounts.
More corruption. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| You'd think that the Korean media and netizens would lay off all the "corrupt" foreigners that are "corrupting" their country. |
Is the term is "projectionism"? It's a concept in psychology where a person (or in this case, country) virulently protests a flaw in another person or group to hide the fact they have the real problem.
EDIT: Ah, I found it. Courtesy of dictionary.com:
Project, verb:
21. Psychology. to ascribe one's own feelings, thoughts, or attitudes to others. |
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patongpanda
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I think these surveys are flawed. I'm sure western countries are just as corrupt but it is 'acceptable corruption' ie top-level govt approved stuff rather than the low-level grease in Asia. Just look at USA's level of corruption in Iraq thats billions of dollars worth should take it to the top of the list. UK is just as bad but they find sneaky ways to justify it - quangos, dodgy donations, citizenship for sale etc. |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| patongpanda wrote: |
| I think these surveys are flawed. I'm sure western countries are just as corrupt but it is 'acceptable corruption' ie top-level govt approved stuff rather than the low-level grease in Asia. Just look at USA's level of corruption in Iraq thats billions of dollars worth should take it to the top of the list. UK is just as bad but they find sneaky ways to justify it - quangos, dodgy donations, citizenship for sale etc. |
I have to slap my head at this line of argument. Some people must be living on a different planet than me.
TI is a meta survey, meaning it is an amalgamation of 9 or 10 other surveys. It surveys both foreign businessmen and locals for their perception of the local business environment.
The very fact that you need to be sneaky about corruption back home is enough of a difference. Duh. |
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