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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: The government's actually passing a law in our favor! |
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Discriminators Will Face Legal Action.
Please read the entire article. It's short so I'm only quoting two paragraphs.
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| For the first time in Korea, direct and indirect discrimination on grounds of race, sex and nationality will be subject to legal punishment when the anti-discrimination bill is passed in November. |
Did you catch that? The new law will protect us foreigners from being discriminated against just because we're foreign. That means that shops can no longer say with impunity, "We can't sell to you, you're a foreigner."
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| Especially, the bill restrains not only direct discrimination but also indirect bias as well as abuse. ``Banning discrimination is necessary to realize guaranteed equalization in the Constitution. The law will protect those suffering from unfair treatment solely because of their race and sex as well as age, handicap and one�s medical history,�� the ministry official said. |
Wow. The current government, which so far hasn't shown itself to be exactly the friend of foreigners residing in Korea, is taking up what I've been saying for a few years now: we foreigners are included in the constitutional protections. After all, if we're obliged to obey the law, then the law must be obliged to protect us. I know I've been lambasting the current administration in Korea lately; however, I'm quite impressed they've taken this step.
Now, if anyone can find a link to this same news on a Korean newspaper's Korean language website, please post the link here. I'd dearly love to print the thing out and deliver it to a couple of shop owners I know.
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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I will sit back and wait and see the what happens with the first test case. Just because it's a law doesn't mean it will be applied at all much less fairly.
Nice effort though... |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: Re: The government's actually passing a law in our favor! |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
Discriminators Will Face Legal Action.
Please read the entire article. It's short so I'm only quoting two paragraphs.
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| For the first time in Korea, direct and indirect discrimination on grounds of race, sex and nationality will be subject to legal punishment when the anti-discrimination bill is passed in November. |
Did you catch that? The new law will protect us foreigners from being discriminated against just because we're foreign. That means that shops can no longer say with impunity, "We can't sell to you, you're a foreigner."
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| Especially, the bill restrains not only direct discrimination but also indirect bias as well as abuse. ``Banning discrimination is necessary to realize guaranteed equalization in the Constitution. The law will protect those suffering from unfair treatment solely because of their race and sex as well as age, handicap and one�s medical history,�� the ministry official said. |
Wow. The current government, which so far hasn't shown itself to be exactly the friend of foreigners residing in Korea, is taking up what I've been saying for a few years now: we foreigners are included in the constitutional protections. After all, if we're obliged to obey the law, then the law must be obliged to protect us. I know I've been lambasting the current administration in Korea lately; however, I'm quite impressed they've taken this step.
Now, if anyone can find a link to this same new on a Korean newspaper's Korean language website, please post the link here. I'd dearly love to print the thing out and deliver it to a couple of shop owners I know. |
That's great. Now, we need some video cameras for places that refuse foreigners. But wouldn't we have to personally sue? I wonder if there will be any meat for this legislation. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I plan to have a friend go with me with his video camera running. The beauty of the new law is that the purported victim doesn't have to go to court on his own. It's the NHRC's task to do that. Actually, the victim doesn't even have to file with them himself. Anyone who witnessed the discriminatory act can do that.
As I've said in another thread, there are million things to like about Korea and a million things to hate about it. I feel the same way about my hometown. I'm going to chalk this one in the "like about Korea" column for the time being.
Evidently, the purpose of the new law is to have some meat/teeth for dealing with outfits that discriminate. This latest law is going to get a workout much sooner than anyone in the government could possibly expect! |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: The government's actually passing a law in our favor! |
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| For the first time in Korea, direct and indirect discrimination on grounds of race, sex and nationality will be subject to legal punishment when the anti-discrimination bill is passed in November. |
Did you catch that? The new law will protect us foreigners from being discriminated against just because we're foreign. That means that shops can no longer say with impunity, "We can't sell to you, you're a foreigner."
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| Especially, the bill restrains not only direct discrimination but also indirect bias as well as abuse. ``Banning discrimination is necessary to realize guaranteed equalization in the Constitution. The law will protect those suffering from unfair treatment solely because of their race and sex as well as age, handicap and one�s medical history,�� the ministry official said. |
Kewl. Kudos to the Seoul Man! 
Actually i've long thought the country is quite lucky to have a former human rights lawyer serve as their President.
Impressive legislation all the same.
Too bad he's leaving office shortly.
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| Now, if anyone can find a link to this same news on a Korean newspaper's Korean language website, please post the link here. I'd dearly love to print the thing out and deliver it to a couple of shop owners I know. |
Why bother supporting bigots & racist Koreans?
Dude, we vote with our feet & WON ... 
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Public spitting and driving motor bikes on the sidewalk are also illegal in Korea. Dont hold your breath. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
Public spitting and driving motor bikes on the sidewalk are also illegal in Korea.
Dont hold your breath. |
If we have what we feel is a valid beef, WE need to pursue its application.
So-called "discrimination" is generally not a criminal offense but rather a civil one.
You can forget about cops getting involved.
Care to hire a lawyer? |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Location: Top secret.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I am sure this will revolutionize the teacher hiring process.
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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So, what's up with all the problems with spitting?
Isn't spitting on the ground a normal thing that people do when outside?
Are Koreans spitting on floors in shops and whatnot?
Since when did it become inappropriate to spit on the ground, paved or otherwise? |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
So, what's up with all the problems with spitting?
Isn't spitting on the ground a normal thing that people do when outside?
Are Koreans spitting on floors in shops and whatnot?
Since when did it become inappropriate to spit on the ground, paved or otherwise? |
Some do spit inside buildings. I won't spit where people will likely walk, even on the sidewalk I spit on the street or on the edge. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| When I skimmed the article in the Korea Times while riding on the subway I noted that the proposed law would also apply to age discrimination - which will be a major issue for me in a couple years when I hit 60. I've heard that 62 is a mandatory retirement age of some sort, so I wonder how-and-if that would be affected by the new legislation... |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Alyallen wrote: |
I will sit back and wait and see the what happens with the first test case. Just because it's a law doesn't mean it will be applied at all much less fairly.
Nice effort though... |
Agreed. Korea seems to be fond of instituting impressive laws to show off to more advanced nations, but doing nothing to enforce them.
Once again, Image is everything, substance is absent.... |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Once again, Image is everything, substance is absent.... |
Perception indeed. Still, isn't that really how almost all pieces of legislation are?
i.e. serving as legal threats / effectual promises?
Substance, as far as 'presenting' your case?
How many lawyers is one really prepared to buy? |
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genezorm
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| Public spitting and driving motor bikes on the sidewalk are also illegal in Korea. Dont hold your breath. |
true that...does anyone know if this will apply to red light districts? as those are technically illegal too.....so i think they will still be discriminatin and hatin |
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