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| What is the biggest problem you've had with your hagwon owner? |
| My employer "pocketed" contributions for medical insurance. |
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5% |
[ 2 ] |
| My employer "pocketed" contributions for the Korean Pension Plan. |
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14% |
[ 5 ] |
| My employer "pocketed" income tax deductions. |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| My employer didn't pay me on time. |
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28% |
[ 10 ] |
| My employer didn't deduct income tax according to Korean tax law. |
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2% |
[ 1 ] |
| My employer didn't specify all my job duties before I signed my labor contract. |
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20% |
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| My employer fired me without a justifiable reason. |
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17% |
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| My employer didn't provide me with a health insurance card. |
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5% |
[ 2 ] |
| My employer didn't pay me overtime wages for overtime hours worked. |
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5% |
[ 2 ] |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: What's the biggest problem you've had at your hagwon poll. |
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This poll is for statistical purposes. Feel free to add helpul advice for new teachers. I would have added more but only 9 questions were allowed.
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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My employer didn't pay me on time and then didn't pay my rent so I was evicted from my apartment. I was then told that if I didn't show up to work (where I was still owed over 2.3 million won) that I would be fired.
Still don't have that money. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope you get your money back and I'm sorry to hear about that. If you went to the labor board, did they help you? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| garykasparov wrote: |
| I hope you get your money back and I'm sorry to hear about that. If you went to the labor board, did they help you? |
I went to Labor and they constantly found in my favor, but Labor Board can't force anyone to pay, nor can they force the business to close, even when the place has over 30 million worth of judgements against it as mine did last time I checked.
I just found out today that she has closed the place and run, so I don't think I'll ever see it.
If you want more background, click on my name and look for a thread started in March or April called EVICTED. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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My former employer:
1. Pocketed money for tax and pension.
2. Refused to pay severance until it was quite clear the Labor Board was going to rule against her.
3. Refused to pay the other foreign teacher his earned wages for the 12th month of his contract "Because you [the Candadian teacher] must pay for the substitute teacher's wages until we can hire a permanent teacher to replace you."
4. Kept back about 100,000 won from each of us when she finally did pay the rest because it was "for unemployment insurance."
There is a longish list of the other stunts she pulled.
That cow has no knowledge whatsoever of how to run any business. The odd thing about it, though, is her husband's an ISO certifier for businesses. It's not like she has to go to far to get some expert advice.
On the bright side, she did fire the manager "because he could not expertly handle the foreign teachers." In other words, she canned him when she realized she was losing, even though he wasn't the culprit. She was.
My advice to new teachers: don't work for hagweons. Either get a job with the public schools or work in another country. Yes, I know there are some good hagweons here. There are just far too many bad ones. Quit taking job at hagweons and just maybe the good ones will realize that their associations aren't helping them by enabling the bad ones.
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Week 1: Students are complaining. You should make your classes fun. Play a lot of games. Sing songs, don't make classes hard,it's OK, I will not ire you.
Week 2: Parents are complaining. You are playing too many games. You should have a more serious class, or I will have to fire you.
Repeat 26 times. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing other than
a) leaving things to the last minute, like shift changes/schedule changes
b) no clue about immigration issues |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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All of the above have happened to me thus far. An Ewha school tried a home invasion deal on me back in early May, 2002 and it took the U.S. Embassy and Yongsan-gu police to sort it out.
Sparkling!! |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Atavistic wrote: |
even when the place has over 30 million worth of judgements against it as mine did last time I checked. |
How can one find that sort of info? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| thiophene wrote: |
| Atavistic wrote: |
even when the place has over 30 million worth of judgements against it as mine did last time I checked. |
How can one find that sort of info? |
I flat out asked the Labor woman and she told me. Plus, more than 2 million was mine, 11 million was one of my coworkers, 8 million another....not hard to imagine that the Labor woman wasn't lying about the total being 30 million. I was there was stickers were put on objects (including some of MINE!), when the bus driver quit cause they were neither paying him, nor paying GAS. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| hubba bubba wrote: |
Week 1: Students are complaining. You should make your classes fun. Play a lot of games. Sing songs, don't make classes hard,it's OK, I will not ire you.
Week 2: Parents are complaining. You are playing too many games. You should have a more serious class, or I will have to fire you.
Repeat 26 times. |
A the rock and the hard place EVERY ESL TEACER IN ASIA finds him or herself in. It is really quite laughable.
Teacher A is great because he teaches so much grammar.
Teacher B is great because all his classes are fun.
You are never teacher A or B. As for teacher C, the teacher whose classes are both full of grammar and fun.......they wouldnt have a fuking clue what to do if they ever had one. They would probably fire you, steal all your money and kill your dog because you sat in a chair one day. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| What does "biggets" mean? |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| Roch wrote: |
All of the above have happened to me thus far. An Ewha school tried a home invasion deal on me back in early May, 2002 and it took the U.S. Embassy and Yongsan-gu police to sort it out.
Sparkling!! |
What was the end result once the US Embassy and the policy got involved? |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| spliff wrote: |
| What does "biggets" mean? |
Why it's a perfectly cromuletn wodr! |
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trubadour
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| i voted for not paying on time, but not paying health insurance was another thing they didn't do |
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