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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| bosintang wrote: |
Oh wonderful. First everyone on Daves were in the top 20% of their class, and now they're all teetotallers as well. Sounds just like what I remember. Only sober type A overachievers go to teach in Korea.  |
like every poll, this one is skewed in favor of those who are most likely inclined to respond to such a series of questions. there's a reason you don't find any responses by me in the 'university gpa' thread. |
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DRAMA OVERKILL
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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1. Drunks who try to justify their alcoholism (i.e. "Hey... I'm a party guy, that's all." etc.) are pathetic. Nothing fun or cool about being drunk 5 or 6 (or 7) nights a week. Weekend warriors, not as bad... At least they don't brag about how they managed to get through the workday being so miserably hungover.
2. I like drinking, although I never used to. 6 or 7 beers in the right company - good times.
3. Blacked out once (several years ago). Made an ass of myself. Never again. |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| bosintang wrote: |
Oh wonderful. First everyone on Daves were in the top 20% of their class, and now they're all teetotallers as well. Sounds just like what I remember. Only sober type A overachievers go to teach in Korea.  |
like every poll, this one is skewed in favor of those who are most likely inclined to respond to such a series of questions. there's a reason you don't find any responses by me in the 'university gpa' thread. |
That's my point. If you took a random sampling of English teachers in Korea, the results would be *a lot* different than these threads on Dave's would tell us otherwise. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| trubadour wrote: |
If people stopped drinking yet continued lying to themselves and others on a minute-by-minute basis, society would be an unrecognisably terrible place in which living a full-rounded life, knowledge of the self, of others, would be greatly reduced (even on a sub-concious level); where creativity and altered states of conciouseness that are actually essential to progress and fulfillment of the present (which is perhaps the same thing) would not happen. Any cultural acheivement you can think of, occured from some kind of altered state, be it drunk, high, inspired...
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So, people can't stop lying to themselves unless they get drunk? I see. So inebriated folks are just trying to be more honest with themselves? Yes, drunks are known for not being in denial. Society would be unrecognizably terrible without drunkenness? Yeah, think how terrible society would be with enormous declines in traffic deaths, spousal abuse, liver disease and so on. And please remember, I already said that I don't consider "like to drink" and "like to get drunk" to be the same, lest someone post about the positive effects of moderate drinking. Moderate drinking is a good thing, to be sure, but drunkenness? Not so much.
And that last bit about drunk, high, inspired...  |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| Don't see anything "high falootin" about it. People use religion and rituals to alter their minds. They are running from reality. Getting 'filled with the spirit' is just plain stupid. It's a waste of time, money and intelligence. The main reasons people practice religious rituals are to forget about their problems, prepare to do something they wouldn't do in their sane mind, hope to find another religious schmuck to take advantage of, or brag the next day about how holy they are. |
. Please be less critical of others and more critical in your thinking. |
Says the guy who argues in Mad-libs. |
Typical shallow evasion, as expected.
So, what you mean is that you have no proper response to the point made, right? That's because everything you've posted in this thread is condescending sh[i]t, and I called you on it. Only option you have is to open fire. Well done.
Was thinking after I posted the above: I'd like to take on your implication directly. First, let's realize you misused the term 'mad lib'. A mad lib is when you randomly fill in blanks with words into a story with the intent of being nonsensically humorous. That's obviously not what I did. So, you were equivocating in order to set up your ad hominem, which was an evasive tactic. Ignoring your egregious logical missteps, I see your implication is that I am not a critical thinker because of the format of my response. How on earth does that make sense? Perhaps you don't understand the term 'critical thinking'? It's okay to admit if you don't, but let me know so at least I'll see if I need to put on the kid gloves. |
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minorthreat

Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Location: in your base, killing your mans
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| I get hammered on the weekends. I don't touch the sauce during the week except under very rare circumstances. I'd imagine most posters are the same. |
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trubadour
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
So, people can't stop lying to themselves unless they get drunk? I see. So inebriated folks are just trying to be more honest with themselves? Yes, drunks are known for not being in denial. Society would be unrecognizably terrible without drunkenness? Yeah, think how terrible society would be with enormous declines in traffic deaths, spousal abuse, liver disease and so on. And please remember, I already said that I don't consider "like to drink" and "like to get drunk" to be the same, lest someone post about the positive effects of moderate drinking. Moderate drinking is a good thing, to be sure, but drunkenness? Not so much.
And that last bit about drunk, high, inspired...  |
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ever read a book, looked at a church, listened to music, gone to the theatre? They were all pissed when they did that!
I'm hoping your sense of irony is keener than your understanding of culture, history, pathology, psychology.
Then again...  |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| trubadour wrote: |
The OP smacks of denial or simplistic immaturity.
Cheers. |
oooooh ouch LOL |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| minorthreat wrote: |
| I get hammered on the weekends. I don't touch the sauce during the week except under very rare circumstances. I'd imagine most posters are the same. |
you may be right, but who wants to admit otherwise? |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| Don't see anything "high falootin" about it. People use religion and rituals to alter their minds. They are running from reality. Getting 'filled with the spirit' is just plain stupid. It's a waste of time, money and intelligence. The main reasons people practice religious rituals are to forget about their problems, prepare to do something they wouldn't do in their sane mind, hope to find another religious schmuck to take advantage of, or brag the next day about how holy they are. |
. Please be less critical of others and more critical in your thinking. |
Says the guy who argues in Mad-libs. |
Typical shallow evasion, as expected.
So, what you mean is that you have no proper response to the point made, right? That's because everything you've posted in this thread is condescending sh[i]t, and I called you on it. Only option you have is to open fire. Well done.
Was thinking after I posted the above: I'd like to take on your implication directly. First, let's realize you misused the term 'mad lib'. A mad lib is when you randomly fill in blanks with words into a story with the intent of being nonsensically humorous. That's obviously not what I did. So, you were equivocating in order to set up your ad hominem, which was an evasive tactic. Ignoring your egregious logical missteps, I see your implication is that I am not a critical thinker because of the format of my response. How on earth does that make sense? Perhaps you don't understand the term 'critical thinking'? It's okay to admit if you don't, but let me know so at least I'll see if I need to put on the kid gloves. |
Not evasion. Your post was so obviously silly, I thought it unnecessary to point that out in great detail. And actually, as your response was rather nonsenical and humurous, Mad libs was quite appropriate. And yes, the format you used does show/confirm you to be uncritical in your thinking. Throwing new words into a paragraph proves nothing. Trying to equate drunkenness with being "filled with the spirit" (whatever that means) is laughable. Do a few googles and see what stats you can find on "spirit-related traffic accidents." See how many diseases are connected with chronic spirit filledness. Let me know how many co-workers call in sick because of spirit hangover or come to work reeking of spirit. Check out a women's shelter and ask how many of them feared for their safety because their husband always returned home late at night filled with the spirit.
Mad libs indeed.
EDIT: Why so sensitive about an attack on drunkenness btw? Your lashing out at me and religion indicates to me that drunkenness must be as dear to you and you imagine religion is to me. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| Don't see anything "high falootin" about it. People use religion and rituals to alter their minds. They are running from reality. Getting 'filled with the spirit' is just plain stupid. It's a waste of time, money and intelligence. The main reasons people practice religious rituals are to forget about their problems, prepare to do something they wouldn't do in their sane mind, hope to find another religious schmuck to take advantage of, or brag the next day about how holy they are. |
. Please be less critical of others and more critical in your thinking. |
Says the guy who argues in Mad-libs. |
Typical shallow evasion, as expected.
So, what you mean is that you have no proper response to the point made, right? That's because everything you've posted in this thread is condescending sh[i]t, and I called you on it. Only option you have is to open fire. Well done.
Was thinking after I posted the above: I'd like to take on your implication directly. First, let's realize you misused the term 'mad lib'. A mad lib is when you randomly fill in blanks with words into a story with the intent of being nonsensically humorous. That's obviously not what I did. So, you were equivocating in order to set up your ad hominem, which was an evasive tactic. Ignoring your egregious logical missteps, I see your implication is that I am not a critical thinker because of the format of my response. How on earth does that make sense? Perhaps you don't understand the term 'critical thinking'? It's okay to admit if you don't, but let me know so at least I'll see if I need to put on the kid gloves. |
Not evasion. Your post was so obviously silly, I thought it unnecessary to point that out in great detail. And actually, as your response was rather nonsenical and humurous, Mad libs was quite appropriate. And yes, the format you used does show/confirm you to be uncritical in your thinking. Throwing new words into a paragraph proves nothing. Trying to equate drunkenness with being "filled with the spirit" (whatever that means) is laughable. Do a few googles and see what stats you can find on "spirit-related traffic accidents." See how many diseases are connected with chronic spirit filledness. Let me know how many co-workers call in sick because of spirit hangover or come to work reeking of spirit. Check out a women's shelter and ask how many of them feared for their safety because their husband always returned home late at night filled with the spirit.
Mad libs indeed.
EDIT: Why so sensitive about an attack on drunkenness btw? Your lashing out at me and religion indicates to me that drunkenness must be as dear to you and you imagine religion is to me. |
I think you should go get drunk. You're boring and useless. Go drown your sorrows you pathetic, piece of trash. |
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