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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Just a note, jinju:
When someone spends 9 1/2 days out of 10 saying idiotic things about almost every topic there is, it is not reasonable to expect people to read a post where you try to make sense.
So: Did you actually try to say something worthwhile in the above post?
(I ask because your post was longer than one line.) |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Just a note, jinju:
When someone spends 9 1/2 days out of 10 saying idiotic things about almost every topic there is, it is not reasonable to expect people to read a post where you try to make sense.
So: Did you actually try to say something worthwhile in the above post?
(I ask because your post was longer than one line.) |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Thank you.
I'll bet I would get more complements on my sucking than you do on your posts, should I ever decide to do that.
Why the negativity? You reap what you sew. Is that too difficult a concept for you? |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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I guess North Korean cameras really suck. |
Yeah but look at the stupid grin on his face. OHBOY!OHBOY!OHBOY!!!  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
| cbclark4 wrote: |
I guess North Korean cameras really suck. |
Yeah but look at the stupid grin on his face. OHBOY!OHBOY!OHBOY!!!  |
Judging by this pic, if that was the first group of humans I came across as an alien visitor (which I suppose I am), I would be very pessimistic.
I might even choose to vaporize them with gamma rays, or something. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I only wish they were as advanced culturally as they are technologically.
Are the 2 Korea's comparable to what was the 2 Germany's? They are 2 different cultures, but it all boils down to being closed minded and judgmental in negative light as to why you stand off in such tense light while the rest of the world advances on. South Korea is an artificial state of being due to what the Americans did, but that can't last forever nor do they want it to. It's badly past due for the time for Korea Korea to be just one Korea. How could they be too different to be enemies when they are the same race who speak the same language and who come come from the same ancestry and who live on the same tiny dinky arse peninsula? It just baffles me.
Are they going to fight? If so, then just do it. If not, then unite. 50 something years of being at war, they sure need to make their minds up as to what they are doing. Don't you think?
I think South Korea would like to resolve it, but they don't want to, (ambivelent) because they will have to pay money to bring the north up to standard with the south.
I know West Germans beeched about the financial costs of reunification for years, but it was necessary to bring stability to the region. They were like, "Shiza!" All in all, the financial costs were well worth it in reuniting. Europe today is solid as a rock and they are very happy without the old tensions gnawing away at their mentalities. Korea is phucked if it can't do it soon, because the world is not going to keep waiting on them. Someone will have to come back and police them up to standard and America is too far stretched out as it is... |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Europe today is solid as a rock |
I dunno. I keep hearing about these immigration issues in Europe. But I see your point that a reunified Korea would be in its own best interest.
Now if the regime up North currently holding nukes and fervently maintaining an iron grip on power (from outside appearances) would kindly acquiesce to SK taking the reins, everything could move ahead smoothly. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Roh's popularity is polling around 20% right now. I find it incredible that a president of any country would dare go and try to negotiate anything signifigant in the last 3 months of his office and an approval rating that is so low. What if Roh makes a bunch of agreements with the North? If the new gov't refuses to honor them than it creates a serious sh*t storm as the North will not kick and scream more than they usually do. It is incredibly irresponsible of Roh to go the North and try to make any agreements. Doesn't he realize he is not acting as his citizens want him to? His job is to be a public servant not a self-publicizing a**. He really is an a**.
[/url]http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710020029.html[url][/url] |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Thank you.
I'll bet I would get more complements on my sucking than you do on your posts, should I ever decide to do that.
Why the negativity? You reap what you sew. Is that too difficult a concept for you? |
Just meet up with Hite.... |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
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You dont get it, its the Arirang thing specifically. The ROK has security laws that make participating in Nork propaganda a crime. The Arirang festival is just that. And what Roh is doing by going to this thing is giving it and ultimatelty the whole system, legitimacy, to the Norks at home and pro-DPRK forces in the ROK. Thats is as bad, or even worse than if some guy suddenly started a pro-DPRK website calling for revolution in the South. Park never went to the Arirang thing and simply using some service that involves slave labor, as pretty much everything up there does, isnt exactly treason. Disgusting? Absolutely. Treason? No.
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I dunno. I think an enterprising prosecutor, applying your standards, could mount a fairly credible "abetting enemy propaganda" case against Ms. Park.
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| Despite her conservative convictions, Park Geun-hye, has shown herself to be pragmatic and flexible on policy towards North Korea. She favors reconciliation and economic co-operation with the North - in contrast to others in her party who want a less indulgent approach. In May 2002, Park visited Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang in an effort to improve relations between North and South Korea. Kim Jong-il welcomed Park and hosted a dinner in her honor. |
If, at any point during that dinner, KJI got up and made a political speech extolling some alleged virtue of North Korea, that would seem to qualify as a propaganda event.
http://tinyurl.com/2pcyxp
And that photo itself is being used by what appears to be a North Korea-backed front group in Algeria, plus numerous other front groups pushing the same line. Surely Ms. Park must have had some inkling that the picture would be used to such ends.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2f5zqv |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Noh Moo-Hyun bears a creepy resemblance to Howdy Doody in that photo. And the guy over on the right looks a lot like the Cowardly Lion down around the upper lip. Has the South Korean government been taken over by characters escaped from American TV/movies? Something to ponder. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Good luck to President Noh/Roh: it should not be an easy political voyage. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| And what Roh is doing by going to this thing is giving it and ultimatelty the whole system, legitimacy, to the Norks at home and pro-DPRK forces in the ROK. |
Tripe. Attendance does not = support of.
You all have the example of the Iron Curtain falling under its own weight, which partially happened because of EXPOSURE to the rest of the world, not the opposite, but you can't understand the utility of engagement in this case?
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| And what Roh is doing by going to this thing is giving it and ultimatelty the whole system, legitimacy, to the Norks at home and pro-DPRK forces in the ROK. |
Tripe. Attendance does not = support of. |
Yrue, but looking at this through the lens of Roh's 5 years in office, it does equal support of.
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| You all have the example of the Iron Curtain falling under its own weight, which partially happened because of EXPOSURE to the rest of the world, not the opposite, but you can't understand the utility of engagement in this case? |
Reagan didnt continuously bend over and bow down to Gorbachev. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Has anything new come out of these talks. How much did Roh promise the North. Furthermore, what is he thinking going up there making such lavish promises ( being a bit presumptuous, I know) to them that will probably not be sustained?
As an aside, how would you feel knowing a portion of your tax dollars were going to prop up the regime/military in the North?
Not exactly how much it is per capita that goes up there, perhaps RR will do some digging and find out. |
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