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Foreigners cannot recieve a bank wire transfer?
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fortunado30



Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Location: Seoul, KR

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Foreigners cannot recieve a bank wire transfer? Reply with quote

I'm curious about this and I want some feedback. Yesterday I went to KB bank (Kookmin Bank) where I have an account. I asked the customer service guy for my account number and the bank's routing number. He explained that KB bank does not have a routing number but instead a SWIFT number that is used for wire transfers. What is the difference? Also, he said it is against the law for foreigners to RECEIVE money from an overseas account. However it is ok to send. Another friend I talked to told me this was BS. However he did mention that the maximum you can receive is 10 million won before they freeze your account. How true is that? Any feedback on this topic would be great.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Untrue. You can receive wire transfers of funds from outside Korea and you can receive more than KRW10 million equivalent.

However, Korean banks do not have routing numbers; only U.S. banks do. The bank's SWIFT code, name, and your account number are sufficient.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only restrictions on money transfers are if you SEND over 10,000,000 won (accrued total over time, not necessarily 10,000,000 at once), you have to bring an official document from your employer stating you made the money legally.

Banks are stupid in Korea. One branch will tell you one thing (you can't receive money, you can't have an ATM card, you can't etc.), then the branch at the next subway station will let you do whatever you want. You would think the banking industry would follow some sort of official guidelines and know the rules since they deal with the most important thing in the physical world, but this is Korea, and they don't.

Another thing you can do is get money deposited into your account back home. Then use an ATM card at a global ATM and withdraw it. Lower fees, it's immediate and no dealing with lazy and incompetent bank officials.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Bibbitybop"]The only restrictions on money transfers are if you SEND over 10,000,000 won (accrued total over time, not necessarily 10,000,000 at once), you have to bring an official document from your employer stating you made the money legally.

Banks are stupid in Korea. One branch will tell you one thing (you can't receive money, you can't have an ATM card, you can't etc.), then the branch at the next subway station will let you do whatever you want. You would think the banking industry would follow some sort of official guidelines and know the rules since they deal with the most important thing in the physical world, but this is Korea, and they don't.

Another thing you can do is get money deposited into your account back home. Then use an ATM card at a global ATM and withdraw it. Lower fees, it's immediate and no dealing with lazy and incompetent bank officials.[/
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I think this overseas ATM thing only works if you have an International ATM card. The Korean banks will no longer issue Intl Cards to non-Koreans


Korean banks do not have the stability/security to be foreign friendly-so much for being any kind of a financial hub in Asia. They have miles to go before they are any where near Hong Kong or Singapore for having stable/mature financial institutions.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Keepongoing"]
Bibbitybop wrote:
The only restrictions on money transfers are if you SEND over 10,000,000 won (accrued total over time, not necessarily 10,000,000 at once), you have to bring an official document from your employer stating you made the money legally.

Banks are stupid in Korea. One branch will tell you one thing (you can't receive money, you can't have an ATM card, you can't etc.), then the branch at the next subway station will let you do whatever you want. You would think the banking industry would follow some sort of official guidelines and know the rules since they deal with the most important thing in the physical world, but this is Korea, and they don't.

Another thing you can do is get money deposited into your account back home. Then use an ATM card at a global ATM and withdraw it. Lower fees, it's immediate and no dealing with lazy and incompetent bank officials.[/
quote]

I think this overseas ATM thing only works if you have an International ATM card. The Korean banks will no longer issue Intl Cards to non-Koreans


Korean banks do not have the stability/security to be foreign friendly-so much for being any kind of a financial hub in Asia. They have miles to go before they are any where near Hong Kong or Singapore for having stable/mature financial institutions.


I was talking about using an ATM card from the OP's home country to RECEIVE money in Korea.

But you are right, to SEND money you must have an International ATM card. Some say they are Intl., but they only work in other countries at banks that do business in Korea (HSBC and Citibank, for example). Real Intl. ATM cards must be requested and the person must tell the bank specifically, "I need this card to work in the USA, Canada, Thailand, etc." Then the person can send that card overseas to a family member or trusted friend, who can withdraw money out of the Korean account.

Some bank branches will tell foreigners they can't have a true Intl. ATM card. They are wrong. Find another branch or another bank. I have one and I'm on an E-2.
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yesterday I went to KB bank (Kookmin Bank) where I have an account.


In my experience KB is the most useless bank in Korea. I believe they are one of the largest (maybe the largest) and act like they are doing their customers a favor by allowing them to bank with them. They make transfers a pain in the but and the branches I have gone to have been unwilling to look into rules for foreigners. There answer has always "No, foreigners can't do that" even if foreigners can actually do it.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Foreigners cannot recieve a bank wire transfer? Reply with quote

fortunado30 wrote:
Any feedback on this topic would be great.

Let me translate what he said for you:

"Speaking English is really stressful for me and I can't really be bothered right now."

Try a different branch, or a different bank altogether.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typhoon wrote:
In my experience KB is the most useless bank in Korea..

Word.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't get why the Koreans who work in these banks can't handle the simple English it takes to handle a wire transfer. It's only a few English words, and what is so hard about keeping a Korean/English translation book at these stations? It's BUSINESS and the banks make MONEY off these transactions.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
I just don't get why the Koreans who work in these banks can't handle the simple English it takes to handle a wire transfer.

Hey, forget the English ability. I just don't get why the Koreans who work in banks can't learn their own fcuking rules & policies.... in ANY language.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. My point was that it is in their financial interests to be able to handle these simple situations.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received payment from overseas just two days ago. Had to jump through hoops to get it though. It felt like an interrogation.

I can understand some of the restrictions on money LEAVING the country. But why in the hell would you make it difficult for money to come IN TO your country?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diver wrote:
I received payment from overseas just two days ago. Had to jump through hoops to get it though. It felt like an interrogation.

I can understand some of the restrictions on money LEAVING the country. But why in the hell would you make it difficult for money to come IN TO your country?



Plenty of countries have restrictions on money coming into the country in order to stop drug dealers and other criminals from laundering the money.
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winterwawa



Joined: 06 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KB - Kookmin used to be the most foreigner friendly bank in Korea. Now it is the most foreigner unfriendly bank in Korea. I don't know what happened to cause this change, but I have been here 9 years and have wittenessed the transformation first hand. I now use Shin Han and Korea Exchange.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

winterwawa wrote:
I now use Shin Han and Korea Exchange.

Me, too, but the only reason I use Shinhan is for the international ATM card. KEB is for Forex and credit cards. Unfortunately, my school uses the Post Office for their banking. Talk about foreigner unfriendly, my accounts were frozen for more than a week until they could "verify" who I was for fraud purposes (I've had the account for more than a year).
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