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World Top 500 Universities, 2007: Where's yours?
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World Top 500 Universities: where's yours?
Top 100
46%
 46%  [ 36 ]
102-202
14%
 14%  [ 11 ]
203-304
10%
 10%  [ 8 ]
305-402
6%
 6%  [ 5 ]
403-510
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Not in the Top 500
18%
 18%  [ 14 ]
Total Votes : 77

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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
contrarian wrote:
That is a very strange ranking system.


Did you read the methodology and FAQ?
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contrarian



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep! Still doesn't make any sense.

Cool
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why not?
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contrarian



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spinoza.

I do not respond to interrogations.
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
403-510!

Ironically, it's tied with the school I work at here in Korea.

But in the important ranking - the Playboy Party School poll - we're Number 1!

Go WVU!
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contrarian



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
My American Uviseristy, BYU, has been ranked the driest Uni in the US for 9 of the past 10 years.

It is usually ranked 16 or 17 as a US academic school - it have has everything but a medical school.

Definately not a party place.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
contrarian wrote:
It is usually ranked 16 or 17 as a US academic school - it have has everything but a medical school..


Actually, this year's U.S. News rankings have BYU at #79.

Definitely not a party school, though Smile
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contrarian



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The best dollar value rating is about what I said.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
contrarian wrote:
The best dollar value rating is about what I said.


That's actually not at all what you said, you said (in typical garbled fashion):
contrarian wrote:

My American Uviseristy, BYU, has been ranked the driest Uni in the US for 9 of the past 10 years.

It is usually ranked 16 or 17 as a US academic school - it have has everything but a medical school.

Definately not a party place.


I couldn't find the ranking you refer to ("dollar value rating"), although I did find references to it. Must not be on the web or in my school's document library.

Interestingly, in the 2008 US News "Where the Money Is: Schools that award the most (and least) need-based financial aid," BYU is near the bottom (227th of 231 schools surveyed):

Avg. amountof aid package: $4,067
% of students receiving need-based aid: 37%
Avg. need-based grant: $2,364
Avg. need-based loan: $1,703
Avg. % of need met: 31%
Avg. merit award: $2,410
% of students receiving merit awards: 38%

Now, BYU does well in average debt: 17th: 30% of grads in debt, $13,714 average debt (just ahead of the University of Utah). Princeton is number one in this category: 26% of grads in debt, $4,965 average debt -- remarkable since Princeton's tuition is near $40,000 per year. BYU has significantly lower tuition, I believe, but stingier financial aid (the top schools like Princeton and Harvard, for instance, score 100% in "average need met").

These rankings are among national universities only; liberal arts colleges are in a separate category, and Williams College tops the financial aid list.

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contrarian



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yea, that looks about right. BYU is a bit unique in that Mormon chruch members get reduced tuition. Liike State universities usaully do for in state student.

BYU also gets zero federal or state finnancial assistance. It refuses to take any on the basis that by doing it that way nobody can have any input into policy.

Party school? The suspended 5 foorball players for being in a bar.
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