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mikekim
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 Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: How to use a Korean co-teacher properly in High School |
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I work at a country high school. The staff is complaining that my class is too noisy and students are complaining that they are not participating enough. Fair enough, every teacher has this problem. So the principal has requested for next year that I have a co-teacher in-class. I know this is done a lot in middle school and elementary school, but is this a good idea for high school? This will solve the noisy problem but you can't make students who don't know how to speak English participate more.
So anyways they are taking suggestions, so should I use them simply as a tool to keep things quiet or should we hybridize the class and make it part of their curriculum. IE a regular class with tests and homework?
Any suggestions would be helpful. |
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boyne11
Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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How to use a Korean co-teacher properly in High School?
 
They are one of the most evil group of people on Earth. Good luck using them. LOL
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icnelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: How to use a Korean co-teacher properly in High School |
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| mikekim wrote: |
I work at a country high school. The staff is complaining that my class is too noisy and students are complaining that they are not participating enough. Fair enough, every teacher has this problem. So the principal has requested for next year that I have a co-teacher in-class. I know this is done a lot in middle school and elementary school, but is this a good idea for high school? This will solve the noisy problem but you can't make students who don't know how to speak English participate more.
So anyways they are taking suggestions, so should I use them simply as a tool to keep things quiet or should we hybridize the class and make it part of their curriculum. IE a regular class with tests and homework?
Any suggestions would be helpful. |
Hmmm, are you kidding me?? |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Someone is asking a serious question. Why flame him?  |
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icnelly
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| Someone is asking a serious question. Why flame him? |
A serious question = "Do I use this person as a tool, or try to do something else with them?
Where's your head?
To start with this serious question, I would first call attention to your perspective. Perhaps the limited scope of it could be part of your problem.
Also, notice the problems you are having: noise, and not enough participation. Are there real reasons for either? I'm not saying you should take total responsibility, but perhaps your practices are influencing these problems. Why is the noise occurring? Why are they not participating? Are these just perceived problems, or do you agree too? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I was under the impression that the co-teacher must be in the room with the FT as the FT is not a licensed (in Korea) teacher. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| icnelly- I don't care what you think of me , but that's a serious classroom question. If you can't answer it without some BS attitude, then don't answer. This newbie wants to learn how to properly teach Korean students. That doesn't call for flames and BS attitude. Besides, if your GEPIK leaders fail to train teachers at orientation, how are they supposed to learn? |
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icnelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| icnelly- I don't care what you think of me , but that's a serious classroom question. If you can't answer it without some BS attitude, then don't answer. This newbie wants to learn how to properly teach Korean students. That doesn't call for flames and BS attitude. Besides, if your GEPIK leaders fail to train teachers at orientation, how are they supposed to learn? |
I offered my advice: reflect on your perspective, and see if there are real reasons behind the "problems."
Where's yours? |
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wylies99
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I can't answer beacuse I work in a crapwon, but at least I didn't get all "OMG" and flail my arms over the OP's honest question. Are you some kind of "expert" because you've been here longer than others?
Wow. I'm impressed. |
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Jizzo T. Clown
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| I was under the impression that the co-teacher must be in the room with the FT as the FT is not a licensed (in Korea) teacher. |
I'm pretty sure this is right.
OP--unless you are a licensed teacher, (and usually even if you are) YOU are the tool. I love my coteachers--without them some of my classes would be unmanageable. I let them handle the bulk of the discipline, unless they fall asleep at the wheel, then occasionally I have to be "mean, angry Jizzo."
Plus it's good to have them give instructions for an activity in Korean--it saves lots of time and frustration on my part.
Anyway, your coteachers (if they're any good) can give you useful feedback on your lessons and really help your professional development in an ideal situation. So think of it as an opportunity. The kids will likely appreciate the class more knowing that a Korean has some stake in it. Are you at a HS for commercial students? |
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icnelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
I can't answer beacuse I work in a crapwon, but at least I didn't get all "OMG" and flail my arms over the OP's honest question. Are you some kind of "expert" because you've been here longer than others?
Wow. I'm impressed. |
So youcan't offer any help, and mine had too much attitude.
At least we know there's a defender amongst us. Keep up the work Wylies. Let everyone who doesn't impress you know, and also don't bother to help the OP, but always defend against flames!
Something like this guy does:
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4706/iceman9tn.jpg
What's your moto: I hate GEPIK, and you don't impress me!! |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Academic HS classes should not have a co-teaher unless they're unusually low-level. A CT might keep them quiter (or may not) but will also most likely keep them from speaking as much English as well. In my experience, without fail, having a Korean teacher in a higher-level classroom will decrease the amount of communication that happens in English. |
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mikekim
Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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The English teachers at my school have an average reputation, but their speaking skill is below average. They are all women too, so I doubt they could handle any rotten boys if they had to.
So do you guys use your co-teachers as a classroom management/translation "device" or do you actually co-teach with them is what I want to know. It seems to be the former, rather than the latter. |
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Jizzo T. Clown
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: How to use a Korean co-teacher properly in High School |
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| mikekim wrote: |
...you can't make students who don't know how to speak English participate more.
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This attitude is part of the problem. It is your job to "make them participate more." Of course it's not always easy, but it's your job nonetheless. Maybe you could start a new thread asking how this can be accomplished.
And looking at your coteacher as a "tool" that you "use" is a bad place to start too. Think of them as someone who has the same goal as you, which (I hope) is to help the students succeed. Make every decision and take every piece of criticism / advice with the students' best interests in mind and things will go much more smoothly. |
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boyne11
Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| It is your job to "make them participate more." |
Of course it not your job. You are only a "teacher's assistant."
You're job is to deliver the English instruction but not to motivate/decipline them. They're grown/hard-headed teenagers so no matter what you do to try to motivate and make it interesting, they wouldn't care.
What do you have when you have a mixed dirt bags in classrooms? You gotta bags of dirt.
Just focus on delivering your English instruction. |
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