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lolacatessan



Joined: 05 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Are you or have you been a pregnant foreigner in Korea? Reply with quote

My husband and I live in Mokpo (Jeollanamdo) and are thinking of eventually having kids in Korea. I was just wondering what it's like (versus having them in your home country).

Would we need to move to Seoul to get an English-speaking OB-GYN?
What are the exams like? Any different here in Korea?
What about delivery?
What are Koreans' reactions to pregnant foreigners?
How much does your health insurance cover?
What if only your husband is working and you're not?
What about citizenship?
Cost of baby things here?
Immunizations?

I know that's a lot of questions but any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time Very Happy
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: Are you or have you been a pregnant foreigner in Korea? Reply with quote

lolacatessan wrote:
My husband and I live in Mokpo (Jeollanamdo) and are thinking of eventually having kids in Korea. I was just wondering what it's like (versus having them in your home country).

I had to make one assumption here - that you AND your hubby are both foreigners. Some of the answers are a bit different if he is Korean.

Would we need to move to Seoul to get an English-speaking OB-GYN?
No - in our personal experience - most larger hospitals / and all the womens hospitals had at least 1 English speaking ob-gyn.

What are the exams like? Any different here in Korea?
They are similar to the west - perhaps even a bit more sophisticated. They usually include a routine ultrasound and you get to take home the pics and a CD of the ultrasound to show hubby.

What about delivery?
It is NO different from the west in most hospitals. You have a number of options from the basic hospital care up to birthing suites.

What are Koreans' reactions to pregnant foreigners?
You may have a few ajumas asking when you are due - otherwise, basic indifference.
AFTER the baby is born you will have everyone and their sister ooh and aww when they see your baby.

How much does your health insurance cover?
WITH insurance:
Our costs for prenatal ran about 500k won over 8 months.
Delivery and post natal care including a private room for mom was 550k.
If a C-section is required the cost would go up to about 1 million.
Double these costs if you do NOT have NHIC medical.

What if only your husband is working and you're not?
You should still be covered under his medical care. There is NO additional premuim to get you added as long as you are legally married and on an F3 visa.

What about citizenship?
If both parents are foreigners you are required by law to have the baby registered at immigration within 30 days of the birth. Within about a week of the birth, on your way home, pop into a photo shop and get the passport photos taken. Then file the paperwork at your respective embassies for the birth registration and passport application for your baby. Take the receipt (or passport if you have it quickly) to the immigration office and register the baby registered and get it's ARC.

Cost of baby things here?
Like home, it varies depending on where you shop. auction.co.kr has lots of stuff for about the same or lower prices that you would find at home.
Department stores are more expensive. Baby boutiques are the most expensive. No surprises here.
Newborn disposable diapers run about 25k won for a box of about 120.

Immunizations?
Routine here and the same as home. When your baby is born you will get a booklet (immunization record) that tells you what and when. Your local baby doctor will give it to you (the booklet) before you leave the hospital or on your first visit (usually about a week or two after you go home.

I know that's a lot of questions but any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time Very Happy


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jeffkim1972



Joined: 10 Jan 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mokpo has a brand new hospital for women and babies. Whatever you call one of those hospitals. They specialize in delivery babies.

미즈아이병원

You might want to stop by there to inquire about some of your concerns.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife was and everything was pretty straight forward. If you have any more specific questions not answered by the others, feel free to PM me.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was a pregnant foreigner, I'd be worth millions. Talk shows, books, movies, special appearances. Then again I don't think I'd like being treated like a freak.

Hold on a second, I'm not pregnant, I'm a foreigner, I'm in Korea, I'm still treated like a Freak!
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar to Jaga, except I was the one pregnant... haha.. there are quite a lot of ladies on here who have been pregnant or are currently pregnant in Korea.

I will attempt to answer your questions, but if you have more specific stuff, ask again.. here or pm.

1. Nope. You should be able to find one that speaks a bit of English.

2. The exams - where do I even begin! They LOVE ultrasounds!!!! I had one done during each and every visit.. which was great for me. haha.. cos Letty (in my avatar picture) was and is my only child and I was a worry-wot, so I wanted to know constantly to make sure. Otherwise, they do the usual.. at least mine did... blood test during the first trimester.. then other tests like the glucose test. etc. to follow in the second half of the second trimester and the beginning of the third.

3. I had a great delivery, all natural.. but be warned, Korean doctors prefer c-sections.. not necessarily for medical reasons but more because of $$$.

4. Hmmm... well, most Koreans are happy to see you pregnant. Period. I am actually British Chinese, so I do look Korean in a way (some say I do, some say not.. it's an ongoing debate.. haha) and when I was pregnant, a kind lady held her umbrella over my head because it had started to drizzle and I didn't have my umbrella. She walked all the way to my destination with me just so I wouldn't *get wet and catch a cold*, according to her.

5. Health insurance covers quite a lot - I think 80%. We paid just 400,000 for 2 nights 3 days, including the delivery.

6. Makes no difference. If one of you only is working, then the other is covered under your NHIns. You get exactly the same benefits.

7. What about citizenship? Is one of you Korean? Or are you both foreign? You won't get Korean citizenship just because your child is born here, if that's what you mean. What you need to do is to refer back to your country's embassy to see what they do about registration. For the UK, we had to register our daughter within 14 days or something.

8. Cost of baby things can be expensive or cheap. Expensive if you buy from the big department stores - they overprice EVERYTHING. We bought most of our stuff over the internet. I will send you links if you want. Supermarkets are OK when they do their weekly sales and you happen to need that particular item.

Alternatively, if you don't mind using second hand things, there are people here always trying to sell baby stuff.

9. Immunisations - a lot of people do not know this.. even Koreans don't know, but standard immunisations are covered by your national health and you get these done, not at a private clinic, cos they charge you, but at your local government health centre (boh-gohn-soh). If you want extra things, you have to go to a private clinic, but they are even offering chicken pox and japanese malaria thingy as options now, free of charge. We did Letty's BCG at a clinic and that was 50,000 won but apparently NHIns doesn't cover that anyway, so it made no difference.

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What you need to worry isn't so much about jabs.. but finding a GOOD, RELIABLE, *STABLE* (i.e. one that doesn't move away without informing you first!!!) paediatrician. For us, it was a HUGE issue cos when your baby is so small, you want to be able to trust your paed... we thought we found one but he moved away without telling us.. so we ended up just going back to our GP, which was OK. He is actually a very good doctor, as far as Korean doctors go!!!!!

Good luck!!!
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a related note, if you'd like to be a pregnant foreigner, PM me. Twisted Evil
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more "It'll be OK":

I was good friends with a couple who had a baby in Gwangyang (which is also in South Jeolla). They got a private room in a nice maternity hospital at a 50% discount because they were foreign. The room was great (I've visited public hospital rooms in Britain and this was wayyyy better) and they had a great doctor. They had no problems, and had a lot of input into care at all levels (pre/during/post birth).

If my little lady was giving birth any time soon, I'd be happier with her having it there, in Gwangyang, than I would in the average hospital in the UK.

There are also some rubbish hospitals in Korea. Terrible ones. So do your homework first =)
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever wrote:
On a related note, if you'd like to be a pregnant foreigner, PM me. :twisted:


You horny guy - you must be punished to the Nth Degree.
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lolacatessan



Joined: 05 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey- thanks everyone! all the info you've sent is very helpful. just so you know, i'm NOT pregnant yet but i wanted to get a lot of info before i do get pregnant (which may be in a couple years).

here's a link someone sent me and i thought i'd post it on here for everyone else. it's a forum just for married and/or pregnant foreigners in korea:

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http://www.eslcafe.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=52
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simone



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I *am* a pregnant foreigner. I go on maternity leave next thursday, unless she decides to arrive early.

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Would we need to move to Seoul to get an English-speaking OB-GYN?
What are the exams like? Any different here in Korea?
What about delivery?
What are Koreans' reactions to pregnant foreigners?
How much does your health insurance cover?
What if only your husband is working and you're not?
What about citizenship?
Cost of baby things here?
Immunizations?


The exams and technology are fine - you and the baby will be safe. If you want to have a 'non-medicalized' birth with few interventions, that's a bit tricky. There are midwives and birthing centers in Seoul, but it's pretty new.

Insurance costs? Let's see - eleven vists so far at an average of 60 a visit, plus another 500 or so for the delivery - I think we're looking at about 1000 US for total health care. I have Korean medical insurance, and went to a fairly normal hospital. Cheap by American standards, moderate by Canadian... especially since I don't pay 50% income tax!

I've taken a hypnobirthing class here in Seoul, and my ob/gyn is actually letting me give birth in a birthing tub. She even conceeds that I might not necessarily need an episiotomy, but they're generally routine, as are IV hookups as soon as you walk in the hospital.

Baby things, if you want things you recognize, like a playpen, swing, breast pump, etc. can be double the price. In general, be ready to spend... online is the best way to go... I was unable to find decent maternity clothes here and did well with ebay.

How am I treated? Well, if you ever wondered if people really don't look where they're going when they bump into you, you'll know now. People clear a wide path for me most of the time now. On the subway, I always stand in front of the "special seats" for old people, cripples and preggos, and while people do "pretend to sleep", if I catch them in eye contact they will always give up a seat.

I've been able to bond with old women like you wouldn't believe... all I have to do is over exageratte my waddling walk for a few steps, and roll my eyes, and they all chuckle and nod their heads... if they've been through it once, they understand.
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lolacatessan



Joined: 05 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

simone wrote:
I *am* a pregnant foreigner. I go on maternity leave next thursday, unless she decides to arrive early.

I've taken a hypnobirthing class here in Seoul, and my ob/gyn is actually letting me give birth in a birthing tub. She even conceeds that I might not necessarily need an episiotomy, but they're generally routine, as are IV hookups as soon as you walk in the hospital.

Baby things, if you want things you recognize, like a playpen, swing, breast pump, etc. can be double the price. In general, be ready to spend... online is the best way to go... I was unable to find decent maternity clothes here and did well with ebay.


I'm pretty sure I don't want to work at all during my pregnancy or for a long time after the baby is born. But how does maternity leave work for a foreigner? Do you get 3 months paid time off? Are you going back to work after that? What are you going to do with the baby then?

That's awesome that you're able to get some alternative options at your delivery! I was wondering about that. I certainly don't want an IV, episiotomy or c-section if i don't have to!

I've only seen baby stuff at E-mart and Lottemart. Where else can you look besides online? Does E-bay deliver to Korea? What about other western online shopping sites? My husband and I are both from the states so neither of us are that great with the Korean language yet. I guess we would need to get a friend to help us with the Auction site.

Thanks for the info!
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simone



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lolacatessan wrote:
simone wrote:
I *am* a pregnant foreigner. I go on maternity leave next thursday, unless she decides to arrive early.

I've taken a hypnobirthing class here in Seoul, and my ob/gyn is actually letting me give birth in a birthing tub. She even conceeds that I might not necessarily need an episiotomy, but they're generally routine, as are IV hookups as soon as you walk in the hospital.

Baby things, if you want things you recognize, like a playpen, swing, breast pump, etc. can be double the price. In general, be ready to spend... online is the best way to go... I was unable to find decent maternity clothes here and did well with ebay.


I'm pretty sure I don't want to work at all during my pregnancy or for a long time after the baby is born. But how does maternity leave work for a foreigner? Do you get 3 months paid time off? Are you going back to work after that? What are you going to do with the baby then?

That's awesome that you're able to get some alternative options at your delivery! I was wondering about that. I certainly don't want an IV, episiotomy or c-section if i don't have to!

I've only seen baby stuff at E-mart and Lottemart. Where else can you look besides online? Does E-bay deliver to Korea? What about other western online shopping sites? My husband and I are both from the states so neither of us are that great with the Korean language yet. I guess we would need to get a friend to help us with the Auction site.

Thanks for the info!


Maternity leave depends on the company. I'm not a teacher (but I was for six years) and I get the same benefits as my Korean coworkers. But my company is good and pays full salary - I think other people might only get what they are entitled to under the Korean version of "employment insurance", which isn't much. Can't say for certain.

All I know is it's damned hard getting a company to "think outside the box" in terms of structuring work hours/salary/benefits... it's going to be a challenge when I get back, that's certain.

My husband has his own company and works largely from home. We'll hire some help to make sure he can get work done, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Who we hire and for how many hours is his decision.

Ebay is all about who you buy from. Some ship to Korea, some don't. I bought a bunch of stuff from different people and shipped them all to my friend in Colorado who forwarded it to me. Saved a bunch in shipping costs and prevented customs from dinging me on some new items in the bunch.

Otherwise, again, online, expect to pay double the costs when you include shipping. Ka-ching.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to add that there is lots of baby stuff here that doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg.

There are a couple of larger buildings in Namdaemun that only carry baby stuff. We also got some stuff off of auction.co.kr.

We got onezies and sleepers for 3k-5k, t-shirts for 2k-3k, stroller was 40k, baby swing 80k, bottles were 3k each (with newborn nipple), breast pump was 10k.

We got our crib used (small version and like new) and I think 60k.

You can also shop in the boutiques and spend 10x that much so it is all about your budget.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
We got our crib used (small version and like new) and I think 60k.

You can also shop in the boutiques and spend 10x that much so it is all about your budget.


Yeah, you got it off us, no? I think it was 80 for both the crib and the car seat.
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