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Julius
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 Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: President No seeks formal end to Korean war in Pyongyang |
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Koreas to seek deal for formal end to Korean War
Reuters - 2 hours 17 minutes ago
SEOUL (Reuters) - The leaders of North and South Korea will pledge on Thursday to seek talks with China and the United States to formally end the 1950-1953 Korean War, Yonhap news agency quoted an official as saying.
The two Koreas will soon release a joint statement to mark the end of only the second-ever summit of the states forged at the start of the Cold War, which will contain pledges to seek an end to the 1950-1953 conflict, the South Korean official said in Pyongyang.
South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and North Korean leader Kim Jong-il signed a joint statement but details have not yet been released, South Korean media pool reports said.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20071004/tpl-uk-korea-summit-43a8d4f_1.html |
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Col.Brandon
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Good news. Peace in our time  |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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I'm still skeptical. North Korea has been so difficult and childish for the past 50 years. I can't help think that they have some trick up their sleeve. Like, why now? What's changed recently that prompted North Korea to cooperate? They finally got nuclear weapons. The US and her allies are preoccupied with Iran and Iraq. What's with NK's timing?
Its not like anything has changed recently. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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more selling out to kji. no again proves he's dumber than w
no way much of this comes of it. bbc is not optomistic |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| Its not like anything has changed recently. |
The election is 3 months away. This is the kind of issue that the 'progressives' here might be able to spin into an election issue. It's their only hope of not going down to defeat in December. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I am going to post the full text of the agreement here. It is a little long. If you want to save some time here is a summary...we hope...we propose...we envision...we hope...this was a great photo op...we envision.
In other words nothing was accomplished by this agreement. They hope to do blah, blah. The propose to follow the June 15th agreements, blah, blah. What a waste of a trip. Roh got his picture with Kim and Kim got his contra-band luxary goods that are banned from the North from Roh. Everyone is happy and the people of South Korea can add the money it cost for this summit to the money given to the taliban and the "aid shipments" to the North that has already been wasted. The Roh gov't at its best...waste lie, cheat and steal. Here is the actual text of the agreement:
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The full text of the declaration follows:
Declaration for advancement of South-North Korean relations, peace and prosperity
In accordance with the agreement between President Roh Moo-hyun of the Republic of Korea and Chairman Kim Jong Il of the National Defense Commission of the Democratic People�s Republic of Korea, President Roh visited Pyongyang from October 2-4, 2007.
During the visit, there were historic meetings and discussions.
At the meetings and talks, the two sides have reaffirmed the spirit of the June 15 Joint Declaration and had frank discussions on various issues related to realizing the advancement of South-North relations, peace on the Korean Peninsula, common prosperity of the Korean people and unification of Korea.
Expressing confidence that they can forge a new era of national prosperity and unification on their own initiative if they combine their will and capabilities, the two sides declare as follows, in order to expand and advance South-North relations based on the June 15 Joint Declaration:
1. The South and the North shall uphold and endeavor actively to realize the June 15 Declaration.
The South and the North have agreed to resolve the issue of unification on their own initiative and according to the spirit of �by-the-Korean-people-themselves.�
The South and the North will work out ways to commemorate the June 15 anniversary of the announcement of the South-North Joint Declaration to reflect the common will to faithfully carry it out.
2. The South and the North have agreed to firmly transform inter-Korean relations into ties of mutual respect and trust, transcending the differences in ideology and systems.
The South and the North have agreed not to interfere in the internal affairs of the other and agreed to resolve inter-Korean issues in the spirit of reconciliation, cooperation and reunification.
The South and the North have agreed to overhaul their respective legislative and institutional apparatuses in a bid to develop inter-Korean relations in a reunification-oriented direction.
The South and the North have agreed to proactively pursue dialogue and contacts in various areas, including the legislatures of the two Koreas, in order to resolve matters concerning the expansion and advancement of inter-Korean relations in a way that meets the aspirations of the entire Korean people.
3. The South and the North have agreed to closely work together to put an end to military hostilities, mitigate tensions and guarantee peace on the Korean Peninsula.
The South and the North have agreed not to antagonize each other, reduce military tension, and resolve issues in dispute through dialogue and negotiation.
The South and the North have agreed to oppose war on the Korean Peninsula and to adhere strictly to their obligation to nonaggression.
The South and the North have agreed to designate a joint fishing area in the West Sea to avoid accidental clashes. The South�s Minister of Defense and the North�s Minister of the People�s Armed Forces have also agreed to hold talks in Pyongyang this November to discuss military confidence-building measures, including military guarantees covering the plans and various cooperative projects for making this joint fishing area into a peace area.
4. The South and the North both recognize the need to end the current armistice regime and build a permanent peace regime. The South and the North have also agreed to work together to advance the matter of having the leaders of the three or four parties directly concerned to convene on the Peninsula and declare an end to the war.
With regard to the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula, the South and the North have agreed to work together to implement smoothly the September 19, 2005 Joint Statement and the February 13, 2007 Agreement achieved at the Six-Party Talks.
5. The South and the North have agreed to facilitate, expand, and further develop inter-Korean economic cooperation projects on a continual basis for balanced economic development and co-prosperity on the Korean Peninsula in accordance with the principles of common interests, co-prosperity and mutual aid.
The South and the North reached an agreement on promoting economic cooperation, including investments, pushing forward with the building of infrastructure and the development of natural resources. Given the special nature of inter-Korean cooperative projects, the South and the North have agreed to grant preferential conditions and benefits to those projects.
The South and the North have agreed to create a �special peace and cooperation zone in the West Sea� encompassing Haeju and vicinity in a bid to proactively push ahead with the creation of a joint fishing zone and maritime peace zone, establishment of a special economic zone, utilization of Haeju harbor, passage of civilian vessels via direct routes in Haeju and the joint use of the Han River estuary.
The South and the North have agreed to complete the first-phase construction of the Gaeseong Industrial Complex at an early date and embark on the second-stage development project. The South and the North have agreed to open freight rail services between Munsan and Bongdong and promptly complete various institutional measures, including those related to passage, communication, and customs clearance procedures.
The South and the North have agreed to discuss repairs of the Gaeseong-Sinuiju railroad and the Gaeseong-Pyongyang expressway for their joint use.
The South and the North have agreed to establish cooperative complexes for shipbuilding in Anbyeon and Nampo, while continuing cooperative projects in various areas such as agriculture, health and medical services and environmental protection.
The South and the North have agreed to upgrade the status of the existing Inter-Korean Economic Cooperation Promotion Committee to a Joint Committee for Inter-Korean Economic Cooperation to be headed by deputy prime minister-level officials.
6. The South and the North have agreed to boost exchanges and cooperation in the social areas covering history, language, education, science and technology, culture and arts, and sports to highlight the long history and excellent culture of the Korean people.
The South and the North have agreed to carry out tours to Mt. Baekdu and open nonstop flight services between Seoul and Mt. Baekdu for this purpose.
The South and the North have agreed to send a joint cheering squad from both sides to the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games. The squad will use the Gyeongui Railway Line for the first-ever joint Olympic cheering.
7. The South and the North have agreed to actively promote humanitarian cooperation projects.
The South and the North have agreed to expand reunion of separated family members and their relatives and promote exchanges of video messages.
To this end, the South and the North have agreed to station resident representatives from each side at the reunion center at Mt. Geumgang when it is completed and regularize reunions of separated family members and their relatives.
The South and the North have agreed to actively cooperate in case of emergencies, including natural disasters, according to the principles of fraternal love, humanitarianism and mutual assistance.
8. The South and the North have agreed to increase cooperation to promote the interests of the Korean people and the rights and interests of overseas Koreans on the international stage.
The South and the North have agreed to hold inter-Korean prime ministers� talks for the implementation of this Declaration and have agreed to hold the first round of meetings in November 2007 in Seoul.
The South and the North have agreed that their highest authorities will meet frequently for the advancement of relations between the two sides.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: |
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If this is all that came out of the 'summit' ('summit' implies major figures meeting on a mountain top; these two guys are dwarves meeting on a knoll), then it was a failure for Roh. He needed something to bring back that could be turned into a campaign issue for the leftists. I didn't see anything in my skimming that will suffice.
Unless I missed something, the lefties down here will be nashing their teeth in frustration. 7 years of begging has not paid off. Both RMH and KJI have mis-read the Korean public. Tee-hee. Tee-hee. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| KJI appeared to be laughing at Roh. Or was that just my impression.. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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If this is all that came out of the 'summit' ('summit' implies major figures meeting on a mountain top; these two guys are dwarves meeting on a knoll), then it was a failure for Roh. He needed something to bring back that could be turned into a campaign issue for the leftists. I didn't see anything in my skimming that will suffice.
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Well, there was also that announcement about the nuclear reactor at the disarmament conference. Roh will probably try to conflate that with the summit in the public's mind.
The general gist in the press seems to be that the summit was not particularly fraternal in its spirit, which I think plays to Roh's favor, 'cuz it makes him look more hardnosed.
The next election is still the GNP's to lose, though I wouldn't totally rule out the possibility of them being boneheaded enough to do so. Anyone remember the impeachment fiasco?
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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The South and the North have agreed to boost exchanges and cooperation in the social areas covering history, language, education, science and technology, culture and arts, and sports to highlight the long history and excellent culture of the Korean people.
The South and the North have agreed to carry out tours to Mt. Baekdu and open nonstop flight services between Seoul and Mt. Baekdu for this purpose.
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I have to ask if China has already agreed to this, since North Korea belongs to them. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| China knows that the North is just trying to get some more free stuff from the South. The North will sign teethless agreements like this without a problem as long as the South gives giving them money, food, and luxary goods that are banned by the UN. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Its not like anything has changed recently. |
The election is 3 months away. This is the kind of issue that the 'progressives' here might be able to spin into an election issue. It's their only hope of not going down to defeat in December. |
Maybe...7 years ago. I think thats its different now. People in SK dont actually want re-unification, most were skeptical about the summut and this wont change much. None of what was assiigned is anything new or is it of any substance. Its all agreements IN PRINCIPAL. Its a joke. South Koreans are sick of the progressives. To see how bad these guys are at running anything you dont even need to look at the failed government going out the door in 2008. Just look at the primary the UNDP held. One big, ugly mess. These people have no business running anything bigger than a Family Mart. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| That's true the UNDP primary was a perfect example of why the left should never, ever have been in power in South Korea. What a bunch of disorganized, cheating, corrupt losers. Man DJ and Roh were just a nightmare. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| That's true the UNDP primary was a perfect example of why the left should never, ever have been in power in South Korea. What a bunch of disorganized, cheating, corrupt losers. Man DJ and Roh were just a nightmare. |
The UNDP primary was indeed the bigest disaster Ive seen in a long time. Cheating, election fraud, identity theft, disorganization. These are people who have been running things in this country for years now. They should know how to organize, yet they dont. A bunch of cheater, liars and incompetent fools. |
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