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billybrobby
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 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: How come the only person who understands me... |
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...is somebody I've never met?
You ever feel like this? It's a bit morose and dramatic, but occasionally I think these thoughts. Especially about Bob Dylan, Hermann Hesse, and the guy who is the Mountain Goats band.
edit- apparently, Hermann Hesse has two N's.
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Qinella
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you ever have dreams of a young buddha sitting around in a hotel room with junkie friends, writing metaphors? |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| Do you ever have dreams of a young buddha sitting around in a hotel room with junkie friends, writing metaphors? |
Hehe, if you're trying to remind that Bob Dylan has been a total @sshole since 1966, I'm already aware. Oh, that reminds me, I need to put Van Morrison on that list. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| Treefarmer wrote: |
| you sound like a..... |
Ah, that's the empathy I was looking for. |
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| none of my heroes made the history books |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Treefarmer wrote: |
| none of my heroes made the history books |
Well, don't trouble yourself by listing any. |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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i'm just playin....
but hermann hesse has to be one of the most self pitying *beep* to have lived, and bob dylan is a cunt, 
my favourite writer is camus |
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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my favourite singer is morrisey and he is about 100X more witty and cleverererer than bob dylan
who can't even sing by the way |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Treefarmer wrote: |
i'm just playin....
but hermann hesse has to be one of the most self pitying *beep* to have lived, and bob dylan is a *beep*,
my favourite writer is camus |
To be honest, I'm basing my knowledge of Hesse on Narcissus and Goldmund, Siddhartha, and the first half of Magister Ludi (that one isn't exactly a page turner but I'm going through it). And really, the bit where it seems like he understands me is from N and G. Especially G. Anyways, I'm no Hesse scholar at all, but I never found him to be self-pitying. What do you mean?
The only Camus I've read is The Stranger, which seems much more morose than anything Hesse ever wrote.
...man, I wish I could approach literary discussions from a position of more knowledge. |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| Treefarmer wrote: |
i'm just playin....
but hermann hesse has to be one of the most self pitying *beep* to have lived, and bob dylan is a *beep*,
my favourite writer is camus |
To be honest, I'm basing my knowledge of Hesse on Narcissus and Goldmund, Siddhartha, and the first half of Magister Ludi (that one isn't exactly a page turner but I'm going through it). And really, the bit where it seems like he understands me is from N and G. Especially G. Anyways, I'm no Hesse scholar at all, but I never found him to be self-pitying. What do you mean?
The only Camus I've read is The Stranger, which seems much more morose than anything Hesse ever wrote.
...man, I wish I could approach literary discussions from a position of more knowledge. |
the only ones by hesse i've read are Steppenwulf and half of Demian. but i just found his attitude superior so i gave up on him halfway through Demian, he is unquestionably a skillful writer, but for me there is way too much complaining in his books (although he did live in 30s germany so i spose you would have a lot to moan about.....)
i would recommend you read The Fall/La Chute by Camus, The Stranger is the one you read when you are 18, The Fall is the one you read when you are a bit older and you see things going wrong for you. and the other 'major' novel he wrote The Plague is ridiculously good (it's about the french collaborating with the Nazis, but the metaphor for Naziism is an unknown disease. |
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reactionary
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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nice one on the mountain goats
"i never liked morrissey, and i don't like you"
-the mountain goats
*I actually did meet the mountain goats aka john darnielle. he's what you'd expect, the geeky guy in high school no one talked to. |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Isn't Morrissey just the thinking man's version of Rick "Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down" Astley? |
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mnhnhyouh
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Treefarmer wrote: |
| hesse .......... is unquestionably a skillful writer |
I find the skill level I see is strongly affected by the translator, as I am unable to read it in the original German.
I love Hesse, particularly Siddhartha and N and G. Knulp is also a favourite.
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| Isn't Morrissey just the thinking man's version of Rick "Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down" Astley? |
not at all
i assume you're from north america for some reason, but it is harder to 'get' him if you aren't english because he is very english, but, he wrote some beautiful songs, and he also wrote some incredibly funny songs about being unemployed and bored and thinking you are the shizznitt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgXzChwipY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vn-Na4_eU
two songs that if you don't love you are dead inside |
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| mnhnhyouh wrote: |
| Treefarmer wrote: |
| hesse .......... is unquestionably a skillful writer |
I find the skill level I see is strongly affected by the translator, as I am unable to read it in the original German.
I love Hesse, particularly Siddhartha and N and G. Knulp is also a favourite.
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that is true for everything, i did a course on translation (italian to english) and the power that the translator has is scary, you have to work out what each sentence means and then adapt it as best you can
i think that's why japanime is so particular, because you kind of have to make up your own story for half of it |
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