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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
How many nuclear plants would it take to replace oil consumption?
10,000.
10,000 x 1,500,000,000 (low estimate) = 15,000,000,000,000
Time? How many decades? About 7 - 15 years just to get the first ones up and running.
Not the answer. Certainly not in impoverished nations. |
To provide some kind of context for that figure (cost).....15 million million USD is 31% of annual world GDP and approximately the annual GDP of the European Union. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
How many nuclear plants would it take to replace oil consumption?
10,000.
10,000 x 1,500,000,000 (low estimate) = 15,000,000,000,000
Time? How many decades? About 7 - 15 years just to get the first ones up and running.
Not the answer. Certainly not in impoverished nations. |
Got another idea how to replace fossil hydro carbons? Am I suggesting nuclear is the only option? No. I personally think the market place will determine the solution. But if people want to build new nuclear plants, we should get out of their way. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| keane wrote: |
How many nuclear plants would it take to replace oil consumption?
10,000.
10,000 x 1,500,000,000 (low estimate) = 15,000,000,000,000
Time? How many decades? About 7 - 15 years just to get the first ones up and running.
Not the answer. Certainly not in impoverished nations. |
To provide some kind of context for that figure (cost).....15 million million USD is 31% of annual world GDP and approximately the annual GDP of the European Union. |
So, we can mortgage the world... Let's do it!
I am of the opinion more and more that solutions must be localized. There are places where nuclear will be a good, perhaps even best, solution (perhaps a bridge solution), but it not THE answer. That's painfully obvious. With the changes we see in the Arctic it should be clear to everyone that Global Warming is approaching, or is at, a tipping point. Once you get there, you're basically at a level of change that is moving into being self-sustaining. IOW, we may have reached that point where the best we can do is try to avoid the worst possible scenarios and start figuring out just how to survive. Building 10,000 nuclear reactors does not address this. The time frame is just too long.
Localized sustainability from whatever works where you are. I don't see any other way to go about this. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| Localized sustainability from whatever works where you are. I don't see any other way to go about this. |
Could you give us an example of localized sustainability in, say, Mumbai, Inda or some other city? |
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