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Marion Jones finally gets done for steriods
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Marion Jones finally gets done for steriods Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7030170.stm

I'm surprised no one has commented on this yet. One of the major American sport heroes of the last few years finally get her due. I hope she gets stripped of her medals. Those indignant press conferences from a couple years ago make her look like even more of an ass. Did anyone else buy her crocodile tears?

Lance Armstrong should be next.
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keane



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Marion Jones finally gets done for steriods Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7030170.stm

I'm surprised no one has commented on this yet. One of the major American sport heroes of the last few years finally get her due. I hope she gets stripped of her medals. Those indignant press conferences from a couple years ago make her look like even more of an ass. Did anyone else buy her crocodile tears?

Lance Armstrong should be next.


Only Americans do this?

Rolling Eyes
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TECO



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did she confess, though?
Why didn't she keep lying?
Why come out now and admit drug abuse / cheating?
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did a Youtube.com search.

Ha, aha!!
Check this out!

2004
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqaXyjCz7jE

Today
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DxJ1J5lbT-U

But again, after denying drug abuse in the Olympics, why admit it now?

Marion Jones seems likea wonderful actress and it really shows in the above and today's performances on CNN.


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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think she needs to be given a bit of credit for standing up and saying what she did, obviously too little too late though. I think she was genuinely contrite.

I think at this point, no one comments on drug violations, because the assumption now is that anyone on the national stage is taking something. Maybe some freaks aren't, but I assume 90% or more of top level athletes are doping. that's why I couldn't give a flying f@#$ about most individual sports. It's all about who can cheat the best. Sad state of affairs.
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TECO



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point, I expect all of them to be cheating.

"If you aint cheating, you aint trying!" Very Happy
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wherever there is big money on the line, there will be big (in terms of risk) attempts to cheat. Also, during the cold war era, Communist countries like Russia and East Germany cheated in an organized way mainly for propaganda purposes.

The current crackdown in the U.S., of course, is part of the politicized "War on Drugs" - and going after high-profile athletes is a lot safer way to get big publicity than going after Columbian (and Afghani) drug lords.

This article (written in 2000) suggests that reliance on steroids and other pharmaceuticals will soon be replaced by genetic engineering ...

Dopes in History

Doping isn't a new problem in Olympic sports. Ancient Greek Olympians drank mushroom and herb concoctions for extra oomph. In 1904, marathon runner Thomas Hicks nearly died after gulping down what he called a "stimulating strychnine and courage-inspiring brandy." (Strychnine is often used as a rat poison.) At the 1960 Games, a Danish cyclist died after overdosing on stimulants. For years, East Germany, formerly a Communist country and now part of Germany, government athletic trainers fed athletes large doses of testosterone, a male hormone that can increase an athlete's muscle mass and strength.

The IOC began drug testing of Olympic athletes in 1976. But tests cannot detect all banned drugs. "Too often, abusers stay ahead of the testers," said former Olympian John Naber.

Dying to Win

Athletes who abuse drugs risk not only disqualification from the Games but also their lives. Several performance-enhancing drugs have been linked to heart and liver damage. Other drugs can permanently deform bones.

For many athletes, however, it's a risk worth taking. In 1995, Dr. Robert Goldman asked 198 U.S. Olympic-level athletes whether they would take a banned drug that would guarantee them victory but would kill them in five years. More than half of the athletes said yes.

Why would athletes jeopardize their health for Olympic medals?

Some experts cite the lure of big-money contracts and endorsements. Peter Ubel, a sport science professor at the University of Pennsylvania, blames the high value many cultures place on physical perfection.

"This is clearly a problem in other competitive industries as well, such as in Hollywood and in modeling, where the only way you can get an advantage is [by] doing something unnatural to your body," he said.

Race Against Doping

Whatever the reason some athletes abuse drugs, the IOC, the USADA, and other Olympic sporting organizations agree that more needs to be done to combat doping.

According to Charles Yesalis, author of The Steroids Game, a solution needs to be found fast. Yesalis predicts that genetic engineering of athletes is on the horizon.

"Doping might soon be [overshadowed] by genetic engineering of high-performance bodies--injecting a virus to deliver genes that increase [oxygen] production, for example."


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EPF/is_8_100/ai_66677898
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another self-absorbed, maladjusted athlete. She said what she did was illegal, the "illegal" refering to lying about taking PEDs. She still claims that she wasn't using knowingly. This is the latest trend in insults to our intelligences . . . we are expected to believe that workout warriors like Bonds and Jones, who count calories and know exactly what they're putting into and taking out of their bodies, would somehow use a mystery supplement without knowing what it is or what it does.

Lying to federal investigators would lead to perjury charges, would it not, against regular Americans. Of course she should have her medals stripped. I'd love for her former sponsers to sue her, but I don't think that's legal . . . there's really no way to fairly punish someone who uses illegal means to not only gain attention but to win millions and millions of dollars. Sure she is humiliated now, but Americans have a stubborn inability to shame people (Monica Lewinsky?)
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's time to open a second 'athletic world'. One for competitors who are openly doped to the gills and one where no one is. Saddly, I think all the attention (and money) would go to the doped one.
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TECO



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In 1995, Dr. Robert Goldman asked 198 U.S. Olympic-level athletes whether they would take a banned drug that would guarantee them victory but would kill them in five years. More than half of the athletes said yes.

Shocked Shocked Shocked
I've heard / read that an Olympic Gold Medal can be worth up to and around a million dollars for an athlete in terms of endorsments.

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Another self-absorbed, maladjusted athlete. She said what she did was illegal, the "illegal" refering to lying about taking PEDs.

Yeah, I think she's your typical self-centered athlete. Definiately a bullshitter. Did you watch the speech I posted from 2004 on Youtube.com? She swears she did not abuse drugs and admonished the one guy for investigating her.

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. . . we are expected to believe that workout warriors like Bonds and Jones, who count calories and know exactly what they're putting into and taking out of their bodies, would somehow use a mystery supplement without knowing what it is or what it does.

Yeah, on one level I get a kick out of how these folks can look you in the eye and lie. An Olympic athlete taking an unkown substance?

And just like Larry Craig, God, of course, is on her side.
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jinju



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better late than never. She will now be publically humiliated...her life will become hell...she deserves it for wearing that ugly grin in Sydney when she KNOWINGLY took glory from those who deserved it.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And let's not forget that she's flat broke as well. And involved in that crazy fradulent check/money laundering scheme that took down a few athletes as well.

What goes around comes around I guess.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jones has given up her 5 medals. Normally the gold would go to the silver medal winner, but that person was suspended for a doping scandal at the 2004 Games.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300216,00.html
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bit where her relay team members are being asked to give back their gold medals too. Oish. Now that's a test of real sportsmanship.

Would you?
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jinju



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
The bit where her relay team members are being asked to give back their gold medals too. Oish. Now that's a test of real sportsmanship.

Would you?


They shouldnt be asked, they should be stripped of them. They won the medal because a doped up Jones captained the team. Thet should be stripped without any questions. They can take it out on Jones.
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