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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Phoenix Airport: Latest Arrest-Related Incident... Reply with quote

Surveillance Footage with Police Commentary
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She was clearly out of it. She was headed to an alchohol treatment facility in Tucson and lost it. And no, the police are not to blame because she was in police custody, they're not responsible for what she did to herself. And if her husband really cared about her, he'd have accompanied her on her flight to Tucson and checked her in.


I've been through Sky Harbor at least 15 times since 2001, as have many of the people I know and work with. TSA is no different at SH than any other airport.


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She was arrested at 2:53 p.m. Friday amid an outburst that apparently was prompted when she missed her connecting flight to Tucson.



How many people have missed a connecting flight? I missed one to Phoenix (In Seattle) and I calmly waited three hours for another flight to get home. Why should airport workers have to deal with someone acting like a three year old? She threw a freakin' tantrum and and screamed, she deserved to be arrested on a misdemeanor for not holding herself together. If she needed a drink that bad, she could've checked herself into one of the bars in the airport and calmed her nerves with a stiff drink or two.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The video showed her strangling herself?

Really? Well, yup ... guess that settles it.
Case closed Wink
The crazy old bit%h clearly did it all herself.

Once again, no police crimes committed here folks (apprently never there is).

Move along.

Say, y'know i couldn't help but wonder, when people die while in police custody,
how often is it officially deemed a 'suicide' or ... 'accidental'?

Never? Sometimes? Always?
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly doubt that the police killed her. Judging by the way she was acting on the video that we saw, it's pretty damned clear she was unstable and that she did it to herself.

Every criminal that is detained is "detained against their will." Does that mean that they should be let go? Sure, maybe they could have observed her, but how could they know she was going to try to get out of LOCKED SHACKLES that were attached to a WALL? Tragic, yes, preventable, maybe, negligence on behalf of the police - absolutely not.


The police ARE NOT responsible for every second of every minute of every day for every person that is in custody. Get real, we would need an officer for every prisoner in America. Just not feasible.

This woman was resisting arrest, as a matter of fact, her trying to get the cuffs off was attempting to escape lawful custody. I'm not saying that she deserved to die, but I will say that the police did NOTHING wrong. The family needs to look in the mirror if they want to place blame somewhere. The husband didn't care enough to have someone escort his "sick" wife, but he brought a legal team with him to retrieve the body.



The only thing you got right was that she was a crazy old bitch. Wink
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fly ...

Here's a thought:

Maybe that's why the cops released the tape
i.e. because the PERCEPTION would help their case.

Why aren't OTHER TAPES ever released? Huh?

To believe & then definitively state it was an accidental suicide (officially promoted story) constitutes a gross breach of logick.

HASTY CONCLUSION.

Here's another scenario.

She was pissed, exchanging heated words with the cops ... a struggle ensured, leading to more of an altercation (well beyond the ever watchful eyes of airport security cameras, or at least what the wider world will likely ever see), & she was untimately murdered through strangulation Idea

Impossible?
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another scenario:

Prominent New York family wants to make some trouble for the Phoenix police department, so the department decides it might be a good idea to show people just how much of a lunatic they had to deal with.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you propose may indeed be a more accurate assessment of things.

However, where the truth is concerned i cannot help but be open to a myriad of scenarios & possibilites.

This includes any number of officially presented fabrications & lies.

Call me crazy.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice no taser needed. Hmmmmm.
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAMN! ANOTHER one! I guess Igotthisguitar might have a point!

Handcuffed man dies in police custody
Nikki Renner
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 4, 2007 10:42 AM

A 41-year-old man died early Thursday shortly after police struggled to get him into custody.

The man was the second person to die in the last week while in police custody. A woman died in Sky Harbor International Airport in a holding cell last Friday after she was arrested.

Officers said they first noticed the man parked in a car outside a known drug house near 24th Avenue and Roeser Road, according to a Phoenix Police press release.





When the two officers later patrolled a different area and noticed the same car in front of a different known drug house, they decided to make a traffic stop a few minutes before midnight.

The driver went several blocks, stopped abruptly and got out of the car, police said. When the officers approached the car, the driver got back in, police said.

Officers commanded the man to get out of the car. Witnesses reported that the officers were on either side of the car trying to get the car doors open when the man sped away.

Officers returned to their patrol car and found the suspected car near 23rd Avenue and Roeser Road.

The driver drove off the roadway, left the car and began running through Lindo Park, police said.

Officers followed the man on foot. They caught up to the man, who fought with them as they tried to take him into custody, police said. The officers used physical force to handcuff him. Neither a Taser nor pepper spray was used.

The suspect became unresponsive at 12:06 a.m. and was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead around 1 a.m. Thursday.

An autopsy will be performed to determine the cause of death.

Neither officer was injured.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
However, where the truth is concerned i cannot help but be open to a myriad of scenarios & possibilites.

This includes any number of officially presented fabrications & lies.

Call me crazy


This is done on a fairly, nay, daily, basis here and for good reason.
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seoulshock



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar --- are you for real?
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
....
Call me crazy.


Per your request:

IGTG is Crazy!
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
igotthisguitar wrote:
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Call me crazy.


Per your request:

IGTG is Crazy!
Laughing

Story came out yesterday that the autopsy verdict is still looming.

Coroner has yet to verify beyond a shadow of doubt the cause of her death.

Hmmmmmm ... did they OR didn't they?


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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrested in Washington D.C.

For reading the AmeriKan constitution ... Confused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLuYvBeq40
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Tjames426



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the police tell you to stop, you stop. When the police tell you to stop resisting, you stop resisting. When the police order you to do something, you obey.

___

Why is that so hard for total morons to understand?
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