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Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan

 
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan Reply with quote

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710050017.html

Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit Rolling Eyes Laughing


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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710050017.html


Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit Rolling Eyes Laughing


maybe. who cares?
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not unless they already had some big connections in the business/political world or they were already pretty wealthy. I don't think we will get the chance to see if a foreigner could win a case like because it would be tough enough to get it in front of a judge in SK.
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan Reply with quote

PGF wrote:
skconqueror wrote:
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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710050017.html


Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit Rolling Eyes Laughing


maybe. who cares?


If you don't climb back under your rock or find another thread Cool
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first came over for the second time, I needed a temp place for 1 month before the apartment my wife and I bought was ready. Had 3 Koreans say no to me because I was foreigner there exact words.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racism is wrong, but the whole point of private property is that you can exclude whomever you want from it for any reason, including racist reasons- after all, it's your property, right?
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
Racism is wrong, but the whole point of private property is that you can exclude whomever you want from it for any reason, including racist reasons- after all, it's your property, right?


Actually, no. In the USA you can't. It is illegal to make a decision based on race for housing. In Canada too. According to this article Japan is also making it illegal. You can extend your thinking to a private business because it is MY business, but that is not the case. It is my business and I don't want xxxxxxx people working here.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange that they would not want a Korean person to rent their property. Korean people are renowned for having clean houses. Japanese people much less so. What they say about Japan is clean outside, dirty inside; Korea is dirty outside, but clean inside.
I have Korean tenants in my place in NZ by choice. I didn't advertise it in any English papers, just a note on a Korean shop. Am I racist?

Considering how many Kiwis (even well to do flight attendants) default on their rent who can blame me?


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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:

Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit Rolling Eyes Laughing


No. Well, maybe if Daniel Henney or Hines Ward had been discriminated against...
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it's not just Foreigners. Koreans have a hard time getting money for "damages". Korean Judges don't entertain the notion of pecuniary damages. Another example of how intelligent Judges are in Korea.
For example, if you get hit by a car, there is no money awarded for pain and suffering, only loss of income and medical expenses.
That's why despite the high accident rate, insurance premiums are low, and why the average Korean doesn't care if they are negligent.
In the case of discrimination over an apartment. What are the "actual damages". If it means you have to spend 1 night in a Wogwon for 20,000 won, there are your "actual" damages.
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
Actually it's not just Foreigners. Koreans have a hard time getting money for "damages". Korean Judges don't entertain the notion of pecuniary damages. Another example of how intelligent Judges are in Korea.
For example, if you get hit by a car, there is no money awarded for pain and suffering, only loss of income and medical expenses.
That's why despite the high accident rate, insurance premiums are low, and why the average Korean doesn't care if they are negligent.
In the case of discrimination over an apartment. What are the "actual damages". If it means you have to spend 1 night in a Wogwon for 20,000 won, there are your "actual" damages.


Great post, good information and it is true.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The correct thing for the landlord to do would have been to rent her the room, and if she was misbehaving, evict her quickly.
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anyangoldboy



Joined: 28 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same thing here in Korea. went to see a good priced apartment and they told me how much the rent was. Then I got back to the real estate agent and the landlady phoned up and said she wanted even more rent and even more key money because her friend had told her that Nigerians and Bad Korean people don't pay their rent on time.

Well I happen to neither be a Bad korean or Nigerian. I obviously said no even though she came down to the orginal price after I said I didnt want it anymore
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race discrimination is a common practice in Korean real estate, from what I can tell. When I was doing my apartment hunting, every realtor I went to would be sure to mention on the phone to the landlord that I'm a foreigner. A lot of times they'd respond that I'm white and not black. I wasn't overtly told I couldn't have an apartment for being a foreigner, but still it's obviously a concern of landlords here, and who knows if prices were quoted higher to me. And if I were black, I probably would've been denied the chance to rent some apartments.
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