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skconqueror

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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan |
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skconqueror wrote: |
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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710050017.html |
Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit  |
maybe. who cares? |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Probably not unless they already had some big connections in the business/political world or they were already pretty wealthy. I don't think we will get the chance to see if a foreigner could win a case like because it would be tough enough to get it in front of a judge in SK. |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan |
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PGF wrote: |
skconqueror wrote: |
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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710050017.html |
Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit  |
maybe. who cares? |
If you don't climb back under your rock or find another thread  |
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shaunew

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:05 am Post subject: |
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When I first came over for the second time, I needed a temp place for 1 month before the apartment my wife and I bought was ready. Had 3 Koreans say no to me because I was foreigner there exact words. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Racism is wrong, but the whole point of private property is that you can exclude whomever you want from it for any reason, including racist reasons- after all, it's your property, right? |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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cdninkorea wrote: |
Racism is wrong, but the whole point of private property is that you can exclude whomever you want from it for any reason, including racist reasons- after all, it's your property, right? |
Actually, no. In the USA you can't. It is illegal to make a decision based on race for housing. In Canada too. According to this article Japan is also making it illegal. You can extend your thinking to a private business because it is MY business, but that is not the case. It is my business and I don't want xxxxxxx people working here. |
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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Strange that they would not want a Korean person to rent their property. Korean people are renowned for having clean houses. Japanese people much less so. What they say about Japan is clean outside, dirty inside; Korea is dirty outside, but clean inside.
I have Korean tenants in my place in NZ by choice. I didn't advertise it in any English papers, just a note on a Korean shop. Am I racist?
Considering how many Kiwis (even well to do flight attendants) default on their rent who can blame me?
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Woman Wins Discrimination Damages in Japan |
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skconqueror wrote: |
Anyone think a foreigner in Korea could win such a lawsuit  |
No. Well, maybe if Daniel Henney or Hines Ward had been discriminated against... |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Actually it's not just Foreigners. Koreans have a hard time getting money for "damages". Korean Judges don't entertain the notion of pecuniary damages. Another example of how intelligent Judges are in Korea.
For example, if you get hit by a car, there is no money awarded for pain and suffering, only loss of income and medical expenses.
That's why despite the high accident rate, insurance premiums are low, and why the average Korean doesn't care if they are negligent.
In the case of discrimination over an apartment. What are the "actual damages". If it means you have to spend 1 night in a Wogwon for 20,000 won, there are your "actual" damages. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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GoldMember wrote: |
Actually it's not just Foreigners. Koreans have a hard time getting money for "damages". Korean Judges don't entertain the notion of pecuniary damages. Another example of how intelligent Judges are in Korea.
For example, if you get hit by a car, there is no money awarded for pain and suffering, only loss of income and medical expenses.
That's why despite the high accident rate, insurance premiums are low, and why the average Korean doesn't care if they are negligent.
In the case of discrimination over an apartment. What are the "actual damages". If it means you have to spend 1 night in a Wogwon for 20,000 won, there are your "actual" damages. |
Great post, good information and it is true. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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The correct thing for the landlord to do would have been to rent her the room, and if she was misbehaving, evict her quickly. |
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anyangoldboy
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same thing here in Korea. went to see a good priced apartment and they told me how much the rent was. Then I got back to the real estate agent and the landlady phoned up and said she wanted even more rent and even more key money because her friend had told her that Nigerians and Bad Korean people don't pay their rent on time.
Well I happen to neither be a Bad korean or Nigerian. I obviously said no even though she came down to the orginal price after I said I didnt want it anymore |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Race discrimination is a common practice in Korean real estate, from what I can tell. When I was doing my apartment hunting, every realtor I went to would be sure to mention on the phone to the landlord that I'm a foreigner. A lot of times they'd respond that I'm white and not black. I wasn't overtly told I couldn't have an apartment for being a foreigner, but still it's obviously a concern of landlords here, and who knows if prices were quoted higher to me. And if I were black, I probably would've been denied the chance to rent some apartments. |
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