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Koreans Rush to Guam and Saipan for US Citizenship Babies!
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Anchor baby" is an old term and is pretty irrelevant nowadays. Minors can no longer sponsor family members into the US for immigration.
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Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: I Saw On TV! Reply with quote

I saw this exact story yesterday night on some Korean news magazine TV show. They went to Guam and Saipan and shot footage of the pregnant woman walking around with their big bellies and interviewed these women -- blurring their faces and changing their voices so that their identities would not be revealed. They even showed the nice housing accommodations that the women live in during this time. This episode will in fact encourage more Korean women to go to Guam and Saipan to give birth there so that their baby will have American citizenship. Anything for a "Made In the USA" labeled baby! Wink

Did anyone else catch the episode?
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Not Just Korea Reply with quote

when I lived in HK I knew a well to do Chinese couple that had all 4 children in Guam
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Not Just Korea Reply with quote

Keepongoing wrote:
when I lived in HK I knew a well to do Chinese couple that had all 4 children in Guam

Isn't that to get around the One Child policy? One of my uni students now surprised me by having eight brothers and sisters... he said they are not Chinese citizens; they were all born in other countries besides China. Technically, he said, his parents have no children that are recognized by the Chinese gov't (none are Chinese citizens). He is a Brazilian citizen himself.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 14th amendment should be modified. You should be able to get citizenship if you are born in the U.S., but the child should be in America for a year. I.E. there should be an attempt to establish American roots. How American is some child simply born there and then never having lived there? I am for maintaining the right to citizenship, but the parents should be contributing to the U.S. not simply coming in to give birth. I think in France you have to live in France for a bit and being simply born there doesn't automatically make you French. Nothing wrong with people from all backgrounds becoming citizenship, but I think it should be more than being born somewhere on U.S. soil and then whisked off to Seoul, Damascus, or Beijing.
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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would I worry about people who desire to have their children to have US citizenship? That's good! That's a good thing for Koreans to want that. Maybe we should ask all Koreans if they would like to have US citizenship.
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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
How American is some child simply born there and then never having lived there? I am for maintaining the right to citizenship, but the parents should be contributing to the U.S. not simply coming in to give birth.

Why would it matter if the child was born there and never went back again? We give the person citizenship. What contribution do you want?

they spend money in the hospital and hotels in Guam...


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rickvaughn



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Since Koreans are paying the rack rate for these births, it's rather good for business.


They're giving birth at the Commonwealth Health Center in Saipan, a government-run hospital supported by US tax dollars. So Americans are paying for these kids to become citizens....

As my dad always said, "If you're born in a McDonald's that doesn't make you a hamburger...."






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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickvaughn wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
Since Koreans are paying the rack rate for these births, it's rather good for business.


They're giving birth at the Commonwealth Health Center in Saipan, a government-run hospital supported by US tax dollars. So Americans are paying for these kids to become citizens.....


What a load of wax. Stop spreading lies. Everyone goes to Guam and they pay full private rates.
You're talking about Koreans from China who live in Saipan.
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rickvaughn



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. I lived in Saipan for 5 years. You?
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bondgirl wrote:
Yeah, I don't understand why they would waste that one single birth-day opportunity on making their kid a US citizen either. If I were to have children, I'd go to Europe and get them into the EU instead. That way when they are older they can freely choose to be valuable contributing citizens of which ever coutnry they like. Wouldn't it be great to be treated fairly and to participate equally in the affairs of your country of choice?


at the end of the day, you're talking about a big land mass divided with lines into smaller sections, be it the u.s. or europe.
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wo buxihuan hanguoren



Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two passports. My mom is South African, my dad is Swiss. I was born in SA, but I get Swiss citizenship nonetheless. If I marry a girl, she automatically qualifies for Swiss citizenship, without even having to live in the country.

Which is weird, because it is really hard for foreign people to live and work in Switzerland; it is a very xenophobic country.

What is my point to all this?

I don't know, but Switzerland and Europe in general are the places I want to visit/live in the least.

Asia is numero uno, die beste.
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Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: For U.S. Citizenship or Really Just a Honeymoon? Reply with quote

A month ago when I was flying to Guam the guy sitting next to me said that he was traveling with his buddy who was on his honeymoon. The newly weds were seated two rows in front of us.

I thought this was strange as who brings their buddy with them on their honeymoon? As a general rule, a honeymoon consists of just the newly weds, and nobody else. He said that they were all staying at the Leo Palace Resort (http://www.clickguam.com/guam/hotel/leo/e-leo_condo.htm) which would be a great place to go if you were to live in Guam for a while as there are lots of nice villas and condos there, along with your average hotel rooms, that are great for an extended stay.

I suggested to him that he go scuba diving and he said that he would love to try it out but that his buddy's wife was pregnant. Then it hit me!

These folks were traveling to Guam so that his buddy's wife could give bith to a "Made in the USA" baby!

When you put the pieces together it made sense: a newly wed husband bringing his buddy on his honeymoon to Guam + staying at the very convenient-for-an-extended-stay Leo Palace + a pregnant woman.

So I decided to see if my theory was in fact correct by asking him how pregnant his friend's wife was.

He said she was three months pregnant. So actually, it turned out that this was not a go-to-Guam-to-give-birth-to-a-baby-with-American-citizenship case.

Or maybe it was and he just lied about how pregnant she was, or they intended to stay in Guam for a long time until she does give birth.

Anything for a "Made in the USA" baby!

Though technically, it's actually "made" in Korea and only "released" in Guam.

Very Happy


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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like the barbarians flocking to Rome!
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old thread I know, but I hate the practice.

About a week ago I typed in "anchor baby" to wikipedia and saw that some consider it offensive. Personally I find taking advantage of leniant immigration policies and burdening the system offensive, and once Asians stop doing that, perhaps we can then talk about semantics.
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