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SuperHero
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: OverPriced PCs on Dave's Cafe (spliffed) |
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So over the past few months there's been a new term, spliffed, arise on the buy/sell/trade forum here at Dave's. It refers to when someone wants to sell their computer and prices it far to high. Spliff comes buy and rips the post to shreds and explains what a more reasonable price should be.
I've done this as well and so have a couple of others. However I thought that something a little more productive would be to show what you can buy brand new at Yongsan these days. I took one picture of prices offered on pre-fab computers brand new - no monitor, but this always includes basic periferals like mouse, keyboard and basic speakers.
I didn't get a picture of monitor prices but brand new 22"lcd monitors can be had for around 300,000 won.
Hope this helps someone price their second hand pc correctly. Used electronics should probably be priced at 50% or less than the new pricing. (cross posting in the buy/sell/trade forum)
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, some people have some strange ideas what their used stuff is worth. You know, it's like "dude, you're leaving soon. That's what we call a motivated seller. You don't have all the time in the world trying to eek out an extra dime." |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: laptop computer 4 sale |
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Model SENS 640
P III - 500MHz
128k RAM
10 gig HDD
10 base T ethernet card.
ENGLISH windows 98 and MS-office 2003
new power supply
old battery
carry case
speakers
built-in mouse pad AND extra PS2 mouse
No spliffing allowed here guys...
Asking 500k won OBO.
wink - wink.....
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xenok
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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i agree with your post, but i don't know where you get the 50% number though. the other FS forums/newsgroups i use, generally consider 20% below the price of new stuff to be reasonable if the used item is in as-new (or very close to it) condition.
but if you're going to price-cop, you should be able to back up your claims. the guy who claims you can get X for $Y then disappears when asked to provide evidence, is as annoying as the guy who asks way too much for what he/she is selling.
since i'm on the soapbox, my other pet peeve is people not being clear whether an item is FS (for sale) or FA (for auction). if you're going to say PM with best offer, be kind enough to put FA in your subject. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| xenok wrote: |
| i agree with your post, but i don't know where you get the 50% number though. the other FS forums/newsgroups i use, generally consider 20% below the price of new stuff to be reasonable if the used item is in as-new (or very close to it) condition. |
50% is based on the age of this technology listed here and I thought I was being generous. This tech is the bottom end of what is available new. If it was newer closer to high end then I would say 70-75% might be possible.
Personally I think for new stuff 65-70% is reasonable if it's less than 6 months old. The stuff in this picture was top end 3 years ago and thus 50% is incredibly generous. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: |
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those prices in that picture are too much for what they are offering. On board VGA?  |
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| cubanlord wrote: |
| those prices in that picture are too much for what they are offering. On board VGA? |
spliffed! |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: Re: OverPriced PCs on Dave's Cafe (spliffed) |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| So over the past few months there's been a new term, spliffed, arise on the buy/sell/trade forum here at Dave's. It refers to when someone wants to sell their computer and prices it far to high. Spliff comes buy and rips the post to shreds and explains what a more reasonable price should be. |
I'm guilty of Spliffing people too, though I don't actually feel guilt. On the one hand it's interfering with someone's "for sale" ad. But shouldn't the guilt be the side of the person who is attempting to profit from the ignorance of others by selling used items for more than new?
I bought a new HP6828 Smartphone/PDA in Kuala Lumpur a few weeks ago for about $650 Singapore (400,000w). The model is about a year old and was sold for more than $1,300 when it came out. I was surprised to find an online used ad yesterday for an HP6828 - "bought a year ago" - selling for $900, 250 more than new ones cost.
Clearly these people try to sell based on what they paid years ago for their tech items, blissfully unaware of what they're actually worth now. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Consumer education.
The best consumer is an educated consumer. |
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xenok
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
50% is based on the age of this technology listed here and I thought I was being generous. This tech is the bottom end of what is available new. If it was newer closer to high end then I would say 70-75% might be possible.
Personally I think for new stuff 65-70% is reasonable if it's less than 6 months old. The stuff in this picture was top end 3 years ago and thus 50% is incredibly generous. |
oh, i think we're saying the same thing, just our references are different. how much you paid for an item is meaningless IMO, the only thing that matters is how much that item can be bought for these days. 20% off the *current* price is a reasonable start for a used item in almost new condition. that was my point. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 20% off the *current* price is a reasonable start for a used item in almost new condition. that was my point. |
I dunno. I want the warranty, the scratchless mint product, and the giddy feeling when I open the box for the first time. That's worth more to me than 20 percent.
Not to mention the lousy feeling I'd have about using someone's cast off. |
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alinkorea
Joined: 02 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Don't think it's people trying to rip others off, just they completely fail to understand the concept of depreciation, which is high for electrical goods
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| xenok wrote: |
| . 20% off the *current* price is a reasonable start for a used item in almost new condition. that was my point. |
depends on the age of the technology. The computers in the pic above are all brand new, but the tech is 3-4 years old. I wouldn't pay 80% of the prices listed above to buy those second hand.
| alinkorea wrote: |
| Don't think it's people trying to rip others off, just they completely fail to understand the concept of depreciation, which is high for electrical goods |
exactly |
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phoenixstorm
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| I need a new computer. can't decide between desktop or notebook. |
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