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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: First day Reply with quote

Hey, I am leaving for S Korea on Thursday. What was everyone's first day like once they arrived to Korea for the first time? What should I expect?

I have zero teaching experience and hate public speaking. So I am a little nervous.
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KYC



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends...what ages are you teaching?

Depends....will you be working at a public or private school?


My first two weeks were pretty easy....sat at my desk while little kids would come up and say hello to me every 5 minutes. Then I was thrown into the wolves and was watched by 2 Korean teachers. Scary..but ok I guess.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are 'lucky' you will be leaving late in the week. This means you won't start work till Monday (probably).

Most likely you'll be taken to your apt and dropped off. You'll have Sat./Sun. to explore your neighborhood, find grocery stores, figure out the general lay of the land. You'll have a million questions and no one will be around to answer them. That sucks.

Mostly, you'll be too jet-lagged and jazzed up to sleep.

Good luck.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I arrived at a hotel my first night because my predecessor was still in the apartment. The next day I was watching classes, and the day after that I was teaching (public school).

A word of advice: Be sure you pack enough clothes and toiletries in your carry-on in case the airline loses your luggage. My bags arrived 3 days after I did, and luckily I had packed enough in my carry-on to get me through.

One more thing, Koreans' expectations of foreigners are very high. Just don't let anyone intimidate you and act like you know your stuff, even if you don't.
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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KYC wrote:
Depends...what ages are you teaching?

Depends....will you be working at a public or private school?


My first two weeks were pretty easy....sat at my desk while little kids would come up and say hello to me every 5 minutes. Then I was thrown into the wolves and was watched by 2 Korean teachers. Scary..but ok I guess.


I will be at a Hagwon from 2-10:30. It's K-12.

Two Korean teachers stood over you??? How long did that last? That would make me a nervous wreck.
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JAWINSEOUL



Joined: 19 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what you'll find that all schools and hogwans are created differently. Some teachers will post horror stories, while some will paint a picture of daisies and butterflies. The differeces in the way hogwans are run are really extreme in Korea. Very Happy / Shocked / Twisted Evil

Bad things I've seen:
Teachings hitting 4 year old and seeming to like it.
Schools not paying on time and sometimes not at all.
Housing that is far from the promised conditions.
Cameras in the classroom.
Hawkish owners watching you teach.

Good things
Great teachers who really love thier students and schools
Supportive and helpful owners who will help you wiht outside school issues.
Great housing and some other benifits.
Respectful students

Good luck to you ! Very Happy
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
One more thing, Koreans' expectations of foreigners are very high. Just don't let anyone intimidate you and act like you know your stuff, even if you don't.


I don't know about that J.T. I think among Koreans a little humility goes much further in a new working relationship than false arrogance, specially an American straight off the boat. It might come back and bite'em in the rear. Naturally, OP you don't to treated as a ignorant newbie foreign fool so keep a kind smile on your face and an open mind, but still be on your toes and trust your instincts if you feel you're not being treated properly.
Your gonna be nervous so take your time. This can be a great time or hell, but it usually depends on the person coming over.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough, it could be case by case. But if someone is going to spend thousands of dollars to get a native speaker over here, they generally expect a return on their investment. The consensus seems to be that Koreans will throw a native speaker in the classroom and expect "English Magic."

The OP may get lucky and have a great boss who is understanding of his lack of experience. It really pays to be assertive but also show that you are flexible, but not a doormat...quite a balancing act. People skills really come into play here, moreso than public speaking skills.
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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
Fair enough, it could be case by case. But if someone is going to spend thousands of dollars to get a native speaker over here, they generally expect a return on their investment. The consensus seems to be that Koreans will throw a native speaker in the classroom and expect "English Magic."

The OP may get lucky and have a great boss who is understanding of his lack of experience. It really pays to be assertive but also show that you are flexible, but not a doormat...quite a balancing act. People skills really come into play here, moreso than public speaking skills.



What will I be expected to teach at first? Isn't it awkward teaching not being able to talk to the kids as they speak Korean? Do I say...dog...and hold up a picture of a dog....stuff like that?
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
Fair enough, it could be case by case. But if someone is going to spend thousands of dollars to get a native speaker over here, they generally expect a return on their investment. The consensus seems to be that Koreans will throw a native speaker in the classroom and expect "English Magic."

The OP may get lucky and have a great boss who is understanding of his lack of experience. It really pays to be assertive but also show that you are flexible, but not a doormat...quite a balancing act. People skills really come into play here, moreso than public speaking skills.


True 'dat. But even more true is the "The OP may get lucky...". A big part of the hogwan gig is luck. Use that southern charm to your benefit kentucker4. Hopefully your text book will have a Teacher's Guide to help you out and it WILL be a big help. If not, start post'n in the Job Related Forum for help. Lottsa guys will help you out.

Tips: Know the material before you teach. Have at least a small idea on how you want to teach it. The very first DAY have rules for class conduct made up and a way of "enforcing" it, through points, stickers, stamps, out-right bribes, etc...And biggest of all is stay relaxed and take your time or you're gonna burn yourself out if you constantly play the entertainer to a child-audience.

There's much more to it, but you'll figure it out or head over to the other forum for more help. G'luck.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going to a hagwon then you don't have anything to worry about because you'll have your own textbook to work from, as well as a teachers guide to walk you through the process of planning.

That is one advantage the hagwons have over public school, where you're thrown into a classroom and told to "teach English" to 40 kids who care nothing about learning a foreign language. At least in the English academies many of the students will be somewhat motivated.

You can also check out the idea cookbook on Dave's, and there are many, many websites and books to help you out as far as classroom control and lesson plans. And you can always post your questions here--those who don't attack you will gladly offer their advice.

Good luck and have fun!
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kentucker4 wrote:
Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
Fair enough, it could be case by case. But if someone is going to spend thousands of dollars to get a native speaker over here, they generally expect a return on their investment. The consensus seems to be that Koreans will throw a native speaker in the classroom and expect "English Magic."

The OP may get lucky and have a great boss who is understanding of his lack of experience. It really pays to be assertive but also show that you are flexible, but not a doormat...quite a balancing act. People skills really come into play here, moreso than public speaking skills.



What will I be expected to teach at first? Isn't it awkward teaching not being able to talk to the kids as they speak Korean? Do I say...dog...and hold up a picture of a dog....stuff like that?


The first few days introduce yourself to your classes and take questions. Do not worry. If you are really really nervous, take a half a benadryl; that'll calm your nerves.

Take a look at whatever teaching material they give you. You are a native speaker, so five minutes with the books will give you an idea of what to do in the classroom. Most books here are crap unless you are teaching advanced courses.

It really isn't rocket science at all. Just be friendly and make the kids smile. Try to make the lower level classes fun. If the kids are happy and smiling they will be more receptive to learning english-e.

When a problem arrises, and it will, take a deep breathe and think about how you are going to react. Do not over react to anything. If you are pushed too hard (and you will be), just slow down and breathe before you bite the bosses/manager's head off. If you are asked to do things not specified in your contract and you do not want to do them, do not do them. But, handle the rejection tackfully......

Ex., "oh thank you very much for offering me the opportunity to come in on Saturday and teach, but I've already made plans for my Saturdays. I mean, I'm booked up on Saturdays through October 2008. Maybe next year we can work saturdays into my contract".


Make friends with someone at your school. If you do not have anyone to talk to, laugh with, and make fun of the boss with, your days will be very very very long.

How far from Seoul are you going to be? PM me and I'll give you my number if you have any questions when you get here.
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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, check your PM box. Very Happy


So anyone ever here of www.koreteaching.com? That's where I found my job at.
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MantisBot



Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Location: Itaewon, Seoul, SK

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: First day Reply with quote

kentucker4 wrote:
Hey, I am leaving for S Korea on Thursday. What was everyone's first day like once they arrived to Korea for the first time? What should I expect?

I have zero teaching experience and hate public speaking. So I am a little nervous.


Mine was alright. I showed up around 10pm, so I was just taken to my apartment, my boss bought me some breakfasty stuff, and I crashed. Word of advice however, don't sleep the day before you leave. It'll help with the jet-lag. Just stay awake all night and crash at night when you arrive. Also, make sure you get the emergency row. 13 hours of flying crammed behind someone else is no way to go!

As for how to deal with your school it depends entirely on what you're getting yourself into. Good luck!
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: First day Reply with quote

MantisBot wrote:
Also, make sure you get the emergency row. 13 hours of flying crammed behind someone else is no way to go!


Yes, and if you can't get an emergency row, at least get an aisle seat--more legroom and easier to move around.

Also, set your watch to Korea time as soon as you get on the plane.
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